New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

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New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby dazzer » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:47 pm

I came to Udon back in October to get some quotes for the build, I have decided to get a labour price only and supply all the materials myself, this seems to be the general way of doing things here. It seems to get a referral for a good builder here is very difficult, I eventually used a few contacts supplied by the family.
I have full build plans which I bought already done from a company in BKK (TMM Home) this included all structure loadings 20,000 thb.
It is a 3 bedroom, 3 bathroom single story about 143 sq mt living area.
Armed with plans I put the feelers out for some quotes, I spoke to 3 builders and gave them copys of the plans, after reading other contributors experiences on here I didn't expect any of them to respond, "surprise surprise" 2 replies I arranged a meeting with 1 builder at our Hotel to discuss exactly what he was offering, and he turned up, the second surprise. His price was very close to the other quote.
The builder spoke a little English probably more than the Thai I can speak, but my wife who speaks excellent English and is very switched on was there to help, we went through the plans and basically everything within the building on the plan was covered. after some alterations I wanted to make to the build and some extras I wanted included we agreed on a price with a start date sometime in May.
May was the date we were looking to move here permanently.
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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby splitlid » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:37 pm

Second bathroom toilet needs a bit of work.
Unless you don't have any legs.
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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby Ians » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:06 am

Second bathroom, turn the throne 90 deg. and give yourself some leg room.
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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby olavhome » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:06 pm

And also let the door open OUT from the room :D
Good luck with your build.
Think you have some benefit your wife has lived some years in England and seen English houses.
More easy for her to understand what you have in mind when discussing the building process and you can compare with UK building practises.
My wife lived in Norway with me for 7 years and before we started building in LOS i showed her little about plumbing, electric etc.
However, when started building in LOS, seemed like she hadnt understood to much, maybe because of unqualified teacher or lack of interest :D
Also, she say she thinks of herself more of a "middleman" between me and the builder then i expected.
Guess it is a "thai-versus falang" feeling, when i critisize buiilders, she feels like being negative to thai People and that is not popular :evil: :evil:
But , just to bring Balance, she has been to unvaluable assistance :D
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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby Ians » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:27 pm

One of the most important points is to ensure that if you have the Jimmy Brits with the builder and you are ranting, raving and raising your voice make sure, SWMBO understands that it is the builder you are unhappy and she not to think it is her you are speaking to .
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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby dazzer » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:13 pm

Thanks for the reply's I am aware there issues regarding the bathrooms, being to small and general layout this is something I am going to address.
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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby dazzer » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:50 pm

Day 1, thought this day would never arrive, arranged a meeting with the builder the original guy that gave me the quote turned up with another (his partner in crime) this other guy seemed more switched on and through my excellent interpreter we started the whats included and what is not. More or less everything within the house is covered by the quote including septic tanks, whats additional is any drainage outside the house, got to say I was happy with that.
Next thing was for them to draw up a contract, this appeared the next day, had two people read through it and after some alterations were good to go. one point that I was not happy with was the "supply of equipment" No No, we agreed I would supply consumables only, also included was a penalty clause if they ran over the due date.

Water and electricity to the site was the next thing to get sorted, we had already realised we would have to have our own borehole as the village supply was not very reliable. Contacted a local contractor who quoted labour price 9500 for a 5" bore only, and price to include everything 25000 (when asked what everything included he seemed very vague) went with the labour only option as I already had an idea on what a borehole pump was going to cost.
After finished drilling I asked about getting a pump, I can supply everything was his answer, " I said was this borehole pump + surface pressure pump " yes yes. First mistake ended up with just a surface suction / pressure pump. argued the toss with him and he had now supplied me with another pressure pump. This is not the system I wanted, but live and learn.
As for power no problems my next door neighbour offered us a supply, so happy days.
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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby pipoz » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:25 pm

dazzer wrote:Water and electricity to the site was the next thing to get sorted, we had already realised we would have to have our own borehole as the village supply was not very reliable. Contacted a local contractor who quoted labour price 9500 for a 5" bore only, and price to include everything 25000 (when asked what everything included he seemed very vague) went with the labour only option as I already had an idea on what a borehole pump was going to cost.
After finished drilling I asked about getting a pump, I can supply everything was his answer, " I said was this borehole pump + surface pressure pump " yes yes. First mistake ended up with just a surface suction / pressure pump. argued the toss with him and he had now supplied me with another pressure pump. This is not the system I wanted, but live and learn.
As for power no problems my next door neighbour offered us a supply, so happy days.


Always interested in the drilling of a Well. Would like to know how far down he has to go, before he find good water? :idea:

I tried it at my place, went down 38 plus meters and found SFA

Hope you have much better luck

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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby dazzer » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:37 am

Hi Pipoz, the bore hole is approx 35 metres, but the water is much closer to the surface (no more than 10 mtrs) as the pump is pulling it as opposed to pushing it. (max achieved vacuum about 10 metres) don't know what the quality of it is at the moment will have it tested before deciding what treatment process I will use.
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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby olavhome » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:06 pm

If you find water on such swallow level it can contain a lot of iron and colour most surroundings brown/orange after a while.
My MIL also made a well, 8 meter, driller didnt advice anything and that was what happened :roll:

About house:
You should check out how many electrical outlets thats is included in the price.
In mine it appreared builder only included ca 10 - I told him thats what needed in kitchen alone :D
However, no big problem, price for extra is thb 250,-
Good luck with the build :D
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Re: New build in Ban Chaiyaporn

Postby 2frogs » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:49 pm

Hello,
I'm curious did you finish the build. I'm not seeing anything past this first page. Would love to see more if you have time.
Thanks,
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