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Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:08 pm

So.....one year on from our own build Gops youngest sister wants to build a small place for their mum on the vacant plot next door. The budget is very tight with sister only having 20,000 cash left ( after land filling ) plus a 100,000 loan from Gop ( repayable over 5 years ) and finally about 30,000 from the sale of the wood in mums old house.

I am not going to be getting involved in this as I'm still working our own place but I will make a few posts with pictures to show the progress and budget status.
We are not hiring a builder, cutting out the middle man , but instead Ken and a brother in law will be building it together with hired day help as needed.
One thing in their/our favour is that the cost of many of the building materials has dropped since our own build last year.

All materials will be pretty basic. Standard breeze blocks and zinc metal roof. Only one window at back and glass doors in front. No floor tiling planned except in the bathroom and also no ceiling ( except in bathroom ). A lot of stuff lying around from our own build and the other sisters will save a little bit too.

Here is what the build should look like : 6 main posts on a 4 x 8 grid plus extra posts for the bathroom. Ken has donated some round metal post he came by for the front roof support.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:12 pm

The plot of land filled and ready.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:16 pm

The building material arrives ...... Total so far 25,000 baht. This will get foundations, posts and walls up but as far as I know does not include floor. Also all the ceiling framework has already arrived and been painted.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:53 pm

Ok....so they dug the holes , put in the rebar and then poured in the cement. There followed a gap of 6 days while they waited for a propitious day to erect the posts. In the meantime Ken busied himself painting all the steel roof beams with anti oxidizing grey paint and making rebar cages for the footings.
Come Thursday a couple of extra hands turned up to help putting up the posts. Since then they ( Ken, brother in law and occasional outsider ) have been full at it. It is all very basic and I am keeping right out of it except to go over design measurement s with Ken. Running budget it now up to 58,000 baht but that includes all cement , rebar, blocks, roofing steel, and zinc metal roof sheets and labour for everyone except Ken.
Glad I persuaded everyone to go for the smaller 6 main post design rather than a square 9. It has saved time and money and means less outside help has to be paid for.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:56 am

Well ....... 15 days since they started and making quick progress as there has been no rain to slow things down. The budget is running at 75,000 baht including all labour except Kens. All material is paid for except the window and door plus electrical and plumbing stuff. Ken plans to move some of these things from mums old house before it is sold and demolished.
Looking it over l can spot a few mistakes like the leading edge at the front of the roof is not true and straight. One or two other things but considering the simplicity of the design and the budget objective can't complain too much.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:04 pm

The work in progress...now under the shade of the roof
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:06 pm

I planned the overhanging roof on the left to give mum a bit of a sheltered outside Thai kitchen.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:46 pm

Looked at glass sliding doors today but as they were a bit expensive there has been a change of plan. A cheap upbc front door and window to the side instead. Should save around 6000 baht.

All the electrics are going to be removed from the old house and where possible reused on this build. Waste not want not.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:43 am

Found a few glass blocks left from our own build and Ken has found a use for them.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby pipoz » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:19 am

Looks good.

What are you planning on doing for the floor slab

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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:51 pm

pipoz wrote:Looks good.

What are you planning on doing for the floor slab

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The floor will be the usual rebar and cement. If there is enough ( or any ) money left from the alloted budget it will be tiled with cheap tiles. Already have some free bathroom tiles donated by sister next door.

I am actually not getting involved much in this build except to see that it remains within budget ( so far about 75,000 baht ). It's all Kens work and once I let him look at the google sketchup to check measurements I have let him do the rest. I have made critical comments but it's up to him to listen or not. Today I pointed out that in my opinion he has set the base of the rear window too high at 110 cm compared to our own at 90 cm. I reckon he won't bother taking out that extra row of blocks.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby pipoz » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:39 pm

Who is KEN? is he the brother in law :lol:
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:57 pm

pipoz wrote:Who is KEN? is he the brother in law :lol:


Son in law actually. He is a typical Thai builder .......learnt from doing it with others. On some things he is good .....better than average ...but in mentally visualizing the end result ....not so good. I have told him that if you want it to turn out like the plan you have to follow the plan EXACTLY but he has improvised a bit along the way. Each time he does this I have redrawn the google sketchup plans to show him the effect of his changes. This has sobered him up a bit and he now more or less understands that any ' improvisations will have knock on effects.
Having said that ......when it is finished I hope to illustrate that if you want to build something very habitable for a close relative that does not necessarily come up to western standards you don't need to spend a fortune. If we were to add another 50,000 to the budget it would have a ceiling , insulation and a bit more space. For 200,000 you could make this basic build into something even we could live in ....provided that you don't have too many possessions.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:41 pm

Work progresses. Running at about 80,000 baht now.
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Re: Cheap Build Challenge with 150,000 baht

Postby Bangyai » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:23 pm

Three weeks into the build now and running at 88,000 baht ( bought floor tiles and front door today ). Begin I to take shape now with not much more to be spent on materials. Plan to give Ken about 30,000 baht for doing the build.
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