Price of land in Surat Tani, Trang and Nakhon Si Thammarat

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Re: Price of land in Surat Tani, Trang and Nakhon Si Thammar

Postby geordie » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:46 pm

Looks definately an expensive solution i did not realise until i re-read the erosion is rain i thought the sea was battering it away ?
Along our heavily swollen klong they are hammering piles in with short concrete planks to stop a similar problem probably would be a cheaper solution as long as you add plenty of drains to allow water to pass through the wall which could be dressed up in many ways not least a sand bank or lots of rocks on top of sand

Do a search top of the page for ? french drains although with sand i am not sure you will benifit

Ps the piles could possibly be pushed down with a large digger as oposed to a machine hammering them in works out a lot cheaper i have seen it where the digger pushed a long metal spike down to oped a small hole then forced the pile down the hole afterwards
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Re: Price of land in Surat Tani, Trang and Nakhon Si Thammar

Postby Rudi » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:23 am

Hi Geordie,

No it's definetely the sea (waves), but the builder from the picture (seawall with slope) from a resort nearby, explained it's important to design like this because the pressure from the water; it needs an exit through the wall.
We've been "visiting" seawalls from resorts and private beachhouses in the area, the storm in 2010 destroyed all of them, exept the one with the slope (picture). It was same build like the sketch up picture I posted..
For our wall they have to dig a 4,5 meter deep ditch, 2 meter wide, 150m length. The beams and steel they will use is much thicker than used in average house building. But we have no choice, we need the wall, it's necessary before building our house. :cry:
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Re: Erosion Prevention near Khanom

Postby prathap » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:14 pm

I haven't been checking discussion threads for quite some time, but here is our beachfront north of Khanom with a 200M stone seawall we invested in after those devasting storms everyone was mentioning that threatened to sweep away our front row of palm trees. The wall extends down into the sand by 2M and rises above by 1M making it a total height of 3M. It is massively thick as well and taperer slightly on the front (sea) side. The effect has been great. As the waves roll in during storms they hit the stone wall low and break the force. As the top of the wave hits it is much weakened and tends to drop sand at the base rather than sweep it away. Result is that we actually have more beach building up... in fact, we now have sand climbing the stone steps as can bee seen in the second (solo) photo. Of course the wall wasn't cheap. We had a specialist from Hua Hin come down with a team who labored on it for about three months.
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Re: Price of land in Surat Tani, Trang and Nakhon Si Thammar

Postby Rudi » Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:39 am

prathap, your wall really looks very nice. 8) (and your land)
Í'm very curious about the building method, did they work with beams, rebar Etc.........
You mentioned the wall was very expensive, can you give me an idea for one linear meter(only when you want of course) I like the concept very much, the wall has a slope, can you tell me what angle (degree) they used?
Rudi from Belgium

ps, I started a topic about seawalls
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Re: Price of land in Surat Tani, Trang and Nakhon Si Thammar

Postby brianks » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:12 am

Will be moving down to Khanom late next week to begin our house buildiing project. Would like to stop by and see the wall and possibly meet with you. Any directions to where it is?
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Re: Price of land in Surat Tani, Trang and Nakhon Si Thammar

Postby Maseratimartin » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:06 am

We are this year looking to buy a beach front land plot and here is what I gonna do to protect the investment:

Every 3 m piles sure 10m deep.
Wall will start approx 1.5m under soil level and will have drain pipes so that no water pressure can build up.
The three sides and front will get a standard but strong perimeter wall...depending on the ground piles will be considered.

I consider a 3m wall build in sand strong but we are talking about sand...

Currently in contact with a land owner where a smal dirt road runs between the plot and beach.
Land is 1m raised starting with a 1m stone wall and keep raising towards a mountain in the rear.
Sounds like a safe buy but as much the road creates a buffer it also takes away even there is absolute no traffic just 2 neighbors and then dead end.

Wish me luck in 2013 to find the right place and 2014 I will report... :wink:
By the way we are on a diffrent location but beach is beach isn't it.
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Re: Price of land in Surat Tani, Trang and Nakhon Si Thammar

Postby prathap » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:05 am

Hi brianks,
Why don't you contact me by email and tell me a little of your story so we don't have to take up forum space.
minick@mjdesign.com.hk
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Re: Price of land in Surat Tani, Trang and Nakhon Si Thammar

Postby BKKBILL » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:01 pm

prathap wrote:Hi brianks,
Why don't you contact me by email and tell me a little of your story so we don't have to take up forum space.
minick@mjdesign.com.hk
Thanks!

Think a lot of the wall story has been told but if not it would be better telling it here. Not to worry we have lots of space on this form and live for stories and pictures.

Oh and when I checked mjdesign.com.hk wasn't working :roll:
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Re: Price of land in Surat Tani, Trang and Nakhon Si Thammar

Postby Mike Judd » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:27 am

I have been reading all the posts on seawalls over the last few months by our members, I would think that with so many members intending to build walls of various designs, all with the main object of stopping erosion of their land, they would be well advised between them to get expert, professional advise. Beach fronts change naturally all of the time over the years, so how much one wants to stop the sea from taking it's course will depend on how much one wants to spend. Large seawalls have been built all over the world that last for ages, but there is a difference between stopping the sea dead, right where the tides effect each day, compared to just dissipating the occasional storm tide higher up. Building the house well back from the sea and up off of the ground would be the wisest bet,I would think, apart from the corrosion that air borne salt spray causes to all parts of the house. Apart from all the metals,any wood goes like drift wood with the wind /sand and salt hitting it over the years.
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