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Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 11:29 am

Hi,
I thought that I would add my build as well. :)

Thai style, 6M X 9M, 2 story (american) but ground floor will be just a big open
area, and actual "Living area" on the 2 floor.
Mark
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 11:50 am

Oops, forgot a 4M X 4M front balcony/porch for both stories.
Living space up-stairs will be dbl "grey" cinder block. AAC blocks were in the running
but local labor here really doesn't have a clue about it. As a plus have a team allready
on stand by that do a fantastic job with the block and plastering.
Estimite so far for post & beam std. thai construction, poured floors,
steel roof frame and composite roof tiles. Includes the rebar, concrete, wood
for concrete form work, nails etc.

NOT included is electric, plumbing, doors, windows etc

324K B and fixed labor at 95K B

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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 12:34 pm

Some more details, Niece of my GF, has a 4 year old mini-mac falang house
that is still not finished, and the roof leaks. Super-premium spend, but
nobody was watching the build, so tons of problems, and the BF is back
in Italy. He spent/gave 3M B + and then left for a younger GF. Go figurie
as "Rose" is a stunning pretty girl, but not my type .

Anyway the reason I posted that is her mama, my Gf's mama sister, and papa are
my on site invoice checkers, pic takers, site security, etc.
So that would be in my Thai family, Mama, Papa, and when not in Jomtien, Nu.
In addition to Rose, her Mama, Papa, and one other female relative, Somo.

They know that I have a fixed, limited income, and while I'm not a cheap-charlie by
any stretch, funds are limited. " No hab falang baht tree in amerka" is how my lady
puts it. *grin*
It was stressed to all, by Nu, that I do not want a "Falang" money no object build.
Nor do I want a Thai "cut every corner" to save money, build.
Just for the record too, as construction has already started, when I stay with the
family ( they fixed up a room for us to use ) there is NO aircon, I did have a hot shower
installed about 6 months ago. This is not a "dirt poor issan " family, they are rice
farmers that own their land, and this is the 4th generation on this land. Rose, her
Mama and pop live about 200 yards away on a seperate chunk of land ( where the
Italy house is) but meet up at Nu's Mamas house for a lot of meals, and socializing.

So, while it is a "remote" build, without me there looking after every detail, I
do have the full support of the family to make sure every thing is done to a better
than "crap" standard. I was there for the for the rebar ground work and checked
ties and distance from forms, right amount of of rebar, spacing, etc.

So far so good.
But, yes you knew that there was a but comming.
The builder requested 100K B to start for form wood, concrete, rebar........
When we returned to the farm everything looked great, until they started
the pour for the first floor beams ( right term ?? ) without all the steel forms
in place for the entire first floor. The rebar was complete.

At that point I stopped ALL work and asked WTF !!!! Where are the rest of the forms.
The answer I got was to save money, they were going to do a 2 part pour for
MY foundation. Reusing the forms already in use when the concrete hardened.
I was like NFW, not now, not ever. So 57Kb more and the wood ordered.
Mark & Nu
Ps .... pics soon
M&N
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby sirineou » Sun May 27, 2012 1:03 pm

Hi mark
cant wait to see how your build goes, especially since I plan on building a very similar design .
My design would have most of the living space upstairs, (3 bedrooms, 2 baths),
most of downstairs will be open, with a room in the back, open kitchen in the middle, a small bathroom
and a car parking area.If you are interested you can see a picture of my design at my perimeter wall buid thread http://www.coolthaihouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3288
I am planing to make some adjustments to my design, such as remove the wraparound balcony upstairs, keep only the front balcony, and replace it with roof overhangs for Sade. also I am planing to scale the design down a bit, as I decided against a formal kitchen upstairs.(I think the downstairs kitchen will be more than sufficient, and the upstairs formal kitchen will never be used.
So having said that I look forward to your build, Expect to hear many questions from me,
it would be great to perhaps get some good ideas about improving my design, and lern some of what to, and what not to do.

Chock Dee
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 4:45 pm

Sirineou,

I too lurked here quite a bit. I will be glad to give what help I can, but I'm not a builder
nor have I worked in the trade. That said...will be glad to help.

For me, reading some of the builds here ( your off to a good start, I think) I did kinda jump the gun a bit. I did NOT buy land, Nu's Mama kindly donated the the land to her, so I could build us a house. So, already know my $$$ situation ( and down played by me, a lot).....
If ya follow my drift.
I have NO plans other than a plan drawn by the builders son, of what I want, on a single sheet of paper. No 3-D stuff.


What I have is the OK of the village headman, OK from Mama to build, and 1 sheet of paper with a layout drawn, showing I want a 6M X 9M house on a 3M post and beam layout with the 4M x 4M porch at the front of the house, 2 levels high. Steel frame for composit tile, not telling anyone but might switch to colorbond roof, with spray PU thermal break. That way I have a roof that will support composit tile, if I want too.
Mark
PS
RR< GORDIE and all the regular users please chime in, as I have a excellent flame suit.
OOOps where did I pot that d*mn suit :)
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby sirineou » Sun May 27, 2012 6:22 pm

Makmak456 wrote:Sirineou,
PS
RR< GORDIE and all the regular users please chime in, as I have a excellent flame suit.
OOOps where did I pot that d*mn suit :)

Some of the regulars here seem to have difficulties with the written word , As soon as you post some pictures I am sure you will get more than your fair share of chiming . :lol:
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 7:03 pm

something else to learn :( I do already have a couple of hundred or so :)
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Roger Ramjet » Sun May 27, 2012 7:11 pm

Makmak456,
Congratulations, you're building what you want without pretensions and with a limited budget and I'll bear that in mind if I offer suggestions. Coupling me with that damned Pommie bastard Geordie is not really fair because, after all, I'm an Aussie and far more likable.
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 7:53 pm

DSCN3738.jpg
sore of the rebar work
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sore of the rebar work
the stack of wood that only made 2/3 of the form boards
some of the rebar work
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 7:56 pm

RR, thanks :) did not mean to insult ya, as me mum is a aussie that lives in Shepparton Vic,
and she was married to a 10lb pommie :)

And need to learn this board pic post methods, as I dont like the gallery
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 8:00 pm

I'm trying to get the shell up, as well built as possible, as I bet I will spend 1M b before it is finished. Very few will be allowed up stairs where I plan a much more falang space with a Thai exterior, yes I am as devious as the rest of ya :)
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 8:05 pm

some more rebar work, wery happy with it as well spaced, properly spaced from dirt floor and centered in 1/2 the forms, see above
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Sun May 27, 2012 8:09 pm

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more rebar, floor beam tie into the piles rebar
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Re: Ban Na Khom-Issan-That Pahom

Postby Makmak456 » Mon May 28, 2012 6:44 am

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Papa new window, 1M by 6M +/- made on site 8800 tbh or 284 USD
2 sliding section and the little end cap 1467b a M2
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Postby Makmak456 » Mon May 28, 2012 6:46 am

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