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Thai Immigration

Postby BKKBILL » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:49 am

Time to do some hard thinking!

Thai Immigration Asks Foreigners for Bank Accounts, Social Media, Hangouts

BANGKOK — Foreign nationals residing in Thailand are being asked to disclose personal information to the government, including their bank details and where they hang out online and offline.

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Re: Thai Immigration

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:05 am

[quote="BKKBILL"]Time to do some hard thinking!

Maybe, maybe not. There are reports of people handing back a blank form with no problems.

An example is the arrival card which asks for your income in US$ I never fill it in and have never been challenged, if I were I would truthfully answer that I have no US$ income only £ and ¥ income and don't know the exchange rate.

For this form I could have an equally truthful answer that I don't use social media, use a car (it doesn't ask about pickups :) ) or visit places (other than my registered home address) often. So the form is blank.

As to bank details I would fill in the same information I would supply for my extension of stay application. They have that anyway so nothing new.
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Re: Thai Immigration

Postby MGV12 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:01 am

Sometimewoodworker wrote:Maybe, maybe not.


This story has been ramped up on another forum [where they are very fond of Chinese Whispers] and is not [currently] a new mandate from Immigration per se. An idea dreamed up by the boss of one regional office and currently only used there. Just three sheets of A4 with a load of nosy questions .... and even there it's not mandatory ... no official heading nor form number.

Doesn't mean it couldn't be adopted nationally of course

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Re: Thai Immigration

Postby Roger Ramjet » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:21 pm

MGV12 wrote:Just three sheets of A4 with a load of nosy questions .... and even there it's not mandatory ... no official heading nor form number.

I just renewed my 90 day extension and saw nothing of these forms. For the first time ever I was asked for my residential address signed by my wife the previous visit, but was told "no hurry".
I normally have to hand over my iPhone so they can find my house telephone number as I can't remember it, or how to access it, and don't want to know. I have just 3 numbers on my iPhone and other than that just messages sent by my provider (which I have asked them to stop, but they won't) and messages from Bumrungrad hospital when my next appointment is, which I told them I never read, and to call my house number, but they still send me reminders that all get binned.
I'll be handing in a blank page if they bring it in down here and I'll just get my A/Prof medical specialist to say I have dementia caused by post traumatic stress disorder and give her a nice bottle of red wine as "payment". She's already said she'll write out a medical certificate if I'm late so I don't have to pay the fine, so she's on board. :lol: :lol:
I can see where all this is going though..... they just "lost" 15 suspects in their bombing case and I think some of the s**t that hit the fan might be sticking. Can you imagine a Thai copper reading through something written on a forum in English and making sense out of satire. It would be the Thai Navy all over again, over an award winning article written about the Rohingya and reprinted in Phuketwah using the computer crimes act and not knowing what the article said, let alone meant. Sigh, sigh, sigh. Next they'll want the password to your email account.
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Re: Thai Immigration

Postby Shastadad » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:13 am

An idea dreamed up by the boss of one regional office and currently only used there


From today's Bangkok Post, which seems to suggest that this is more than a rogue Immigration Officials "bright idea"


IMMIGRATION


‘Intrusive’ form irks travellers, expats

POST REPORTERS AND AP


The Immigration Bureau has defended its move to ask foreign visitors and expatriates to fill out an elaborate form, including personal and banking details, as they seek visas and meet reporting requirements.

But the bureau said most of the questions on the form — such as which restaurants and clubs people frequent and which social media they used — were not mandatory.

Pol Maj Gen Chatchawan Wachirapa-neekhun, deputy chief of the bureau, who initiated the idea, said the information, plus an additional picture to be affixed to the form, would be useful for security measures.

The bureau will use the information to ensure the safety of tourists or those who work in Thailand, he said, assuring the details will remain confidential.

The bureau will analyse the data to help their efforts to prevent crimes, adding anyone who feels uncomfortable will not be forced to fill in the detalls.

A source at the bureau said the move is being implemented on a trial basis and was initiated by Pol Maj Gen Chatchawan and approved by Pol Lt Gen Nathathorn Prousoontorn, chief of the bureau. The bureau has since been flooded with complaints by foreigners worried about their safety and privacy, the source said.

The form titled Record of Foreigner Information entered circulation earlier this month. It asks for people’s name, age and passport details. But it adds new sections to pre-existing forms, such as listing “all social media used by foreigner” and the names of places the applicant frequents, specifying clubs, restaurants, shops, hospitals and other places.

It also asks for bank account numbers, and information on any vehicle and licence plates of cars or motorcycles the applicant uses.

“I was shocked when I saw the contents of the three-page form I was asked to complete while applying for a re-entry permit at the One-Stop Service Centre at Chamchuri Square,” said Chris Wotton, a 27-year-old writer, who has been living in Bangkok since 2012.

“One part of the form was particularly ridiculous — asking for ‘places frequented’. This is just crazy. Should I put down every local stir-fry restaurant, som tum stall, bar and 7-Eleven convenience store I visit? The form asks for very personal information.”

He said recent online data leaks from overseas hackers have already shown immigration authorities do not appear able to safeguard data they already have.

Tan Nguyen, 38, a Vietnamese correspondent from Thanh Nien newspaper who has been working in Bangkok since September 2014, said he is not willing to give any personal details.

“If they [the Immigration Bureau] force me to fill out a form, I would lie about the information they need,” Tan said.

A 33-year-old Canadian national, who has been working in Thailand for nearly 10 years, but asked not to be named, said he felt uncomfortable providing his private information to Thai authorities.

“I have no faith in any government’s ability to protect my private information,” he said.
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Re: Thai Immigration

Postby BKKBILL » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:45 am

Nothing on the form said questions were not mandatory.

Every year something new is added to the requirement allowing you to temporarily reside in the land of smiles with many reluctant to express their opinion on most everything.

Other countries in this area are making it easier for expats, here not so much lately. Fortunately those in power at this time seem to shy rather quickly from controversy.
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Re: Thai Immigration

Postby BKKBILL » Sat May 07, 2016 7:44 am

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