"Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:46 pm

Chapter 14 day 78

A slow day but a necessary one. :roll:

Myself and Wasu had planned to go and look at beds again. The shop we looked at last week had an ok bed for 8k something but it was too dark and we were under the impression we could order in a different shade.
We were wrong. Really the place we went to was a couple of steps better than index that’s all but much cheaper than index. Everything was wood, but lower quality and still flat pack built.

So we headed off to Borsang to the factory where I watched them making everything and carving by hand. Choice of beds was still the same as before and not really our style plus they wanted 18k for the teak beds.

It was back to Ban Tawai to the shop where we bought our bed. I had called in the same shop a few days ago on my own and the lady claims she couldn’t remember me ordering a bed from her last year plus about 6 other visits.


With Wasu with me its amazing how the price dropped. I was quoted 18k; but together she started at 16k and in the end we agreed 14k because we were going to take the display model.

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We thought it was much more than we wanted to pay just for the guest bedroom but in the end we decided 8k factory made cheap wood against 14k quality hand made teak was a no brainer.

I keep thinking if I can rent the room for 1000bt a night then in the beginning it was going to be an 80 night payback; now its going to be a 115 night payback, phew this needs to work otherwise its an expensive waste of time and money having an empty showroom.

Whilst parked up somewhere we were adjacent to a specialist aircon shop.

It looked a bit run down and not very inviting but I thought we should just go in an compare the prices with what I had noted in Home pro and SIAM and nayompanitch.

Inside this pokey little shop they had about 12 aircons on the wall. Judging by the colour of them it was evident they had been on the wall about 10 years. Each was that aged white gone yellow colour. :(

On the floor was another dozen aircons plus the external boxes looking more like they had been salvaged than for sale. :shock:

This didn’t look good at all.

Inside 3 women each over 50; age not kg :wink: …. and if I didn’t know better I would say a 70yr old mum and a 90yr old grandma. Behind the counter 2 yapping dogs that were making more noise than the deaf 90yr old who was shouting into a mobile phone. :lol:

I asked Wasu to get a check price on two 13k btu models I had made a note of before; both inverters models.

So LG IC13JN and Mitsubishi MSY13VP.

After a phone call that was pissing me off she made a note for us.

LG is 10500bt and Mitsubishi is 18500bt and the price included fitting complete. I thought that sounded reasonable but I needed to check my notes at what the other places were charging for these models.

Well; a pleasant surprise was had indeed.

The LG;
Nayom Panitch price 16900bt
Powerbuy price 17000bt
Home pro price 16900bt
Hmm, so the big box stores are 60% higher on the LG

And the Mitsubishi:
Power buy price 24800bt
Lazada price 19400bt
Home Pro price 25800
Hmm and those are almost 50% up aswell

With the LG much cheaper and an identical power rating, though this model is not the latest version I think I will go with the LG, they have 5 Year warranty and for 10k I couldn’t even buy one in Makro cheaper.

So my day has disappeared but after getting back home I could still find use for a couple of hours so it was screw head filling. I mixed up the sawdust and the latex and made a wood glue and filled a lot of the countersunk screw heads and other holes in the wood.
This is going to lead onto me starting to try and fill the gaps between several of the floorboards. I have been saving a lot of the thin strips of wood after ripping down boards over the last few weeks and its going to take a combination of stripwood and my wood glue to make them snakeproof.
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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:02 pm

Chapter 14 day 79
One thing led to another which led to another nightmare scenario today.
I don’t enjoy being left with the bits and pieces, the snagging items because you spend a lifetime doing them and there is nothing to see at the end of it. :(

Today I wasn’t really raring to go, but I set myself a task of making a start on gap sealing between the floor joists. In order to do that I first needed to try and close the gap from underneath.
I paid the penalty before for fixing plywood to the underside of the boards as it made a nice home for the termites to enjoy eating them without being seen.

Well this time a 3 or 4 inch wide strip of plywood in a few places should be ok, but I will make sure its well chaindrited before I fix it.

So I made a decent attempt to close up about 6 of the glaringly obvious gaps and holes before thinking “oh I may as well finally get around to replacing the three floorboards that became rotten with the rain at the entrance to the house.

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The holes in that floor were quite big; big enough to lose your foot through it.

My idea is to cut out the three rotten boards and then try to make a new support for some new boards.

As I started pulling out the remains of the dried out floor board I saw a termite…..just one.
My heart sank. Where theres one theres more, it’s a given but where?

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Are they new tenants or are they the original ones that managed to hide?

The evidence was pointing towards the cladding board that was covering the floor joist.
I had to remove two trims from the bottom of the double doors before prising the cladding off.

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Yes indeed it was dusty and a lot of termite damage on the joist holding up the wall and the door frame. Its old damage though, no evidence of termites.

The termites however were spotted in abundance under the last small triangle of floorboard I removed. Maybe 20 termites on top of the joist but they got a thorough blasting.
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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:07 pm

Chapter 12 day 79 contd

To be fair its probably the only area that I hadn’t opened up to inspect properly but I would have thought my initial sprayings plus the professional spraying would have sorted it out already.

I will need to give this joist a good chaindriting and then I will need to reclad it with a teak board. If the surface was reasonable
I could have left it but I think I will have to fill it with cement mortar again to hold some of the structure together.

I did eventually get around to filling in the floor void. I screwed an old handrail to the underside as a bearer and then used one of the boards that I made my outdoor scaffold with. Nice wide board so I just cut it into three bits, drilled and screwed it down.

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Final task just to clean it up a bit from years of old stain and paint drips.

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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:36 pm

Chapter 14 day 80+81

I feel like I have achieved nothing this week because its been bits and pieces. :(

All necessary of course but not very inspiring.

I have abandoned my idea of resetting the glazing beads in a different position really because I made a terrible mistake not getting proper glazing beads. Instead I bought a 30mm double ended trim so I could rip it in half. (the lengths a tight Yorkshireman will go to!!)

Ripping a narrow strip down was so difficult. I had to clamp it to a bigger piece of wood so I could use the cutting guage but if the trim had a slight curve then the beads were not equal.

Anyway I have removed them and decided to fit the glass in the original position. :)

Now problem 2, I had the glass cut to fit inside the reveals whereas I now need the glass to fit on the outside. I think the length is ok for most of them but the height is too short on all of them.

So the outside groove needs filling up and I have to fit a new back bead just at the bottom…I think.

Anyway I have done that job now. :)

After revealing more termite infestation yesterday I have chaindrited it all very liberally. The damage was quite severe in a couple of areas so I thought before I cover it up I will mix some mortar and fill all the voids.

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I then decided to replace the original hardwood trim after tidying up the edges.

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That left another 5m to finish off and I didn’t have anything suitable except some old floorboard offcuts and another original trim.

I ended up butchering the whole length by using three further pieces. I needed to though, one piece would not have fit satisfactorily.

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The step area I decided to use the old door trims. Just cleaned off the old mastic and made a step nosing. It certainly hides uneven floorboards and cut ends and when its stained up again I don’t think anyone will any the wiser.

I just need to follow that idea through on the rest of it. :)
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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:42 pm

Chapter 14 day 80+81 contd

Inside the house I still have to make a start on the bathroom but I am just thinking to progress the gap filling on the floor first otherwise I may end up getting caught by surprise when the bed arrives, so I should at least get the floor done and try to be very careful with it thereafter.

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I am quite an untidy person and my workplace is often worse.

Sanding makes a lot a of dust and I fear I will end up repainting again. :(


My son has already been in Thailand for two weeks but I keep suggesting somewhere for him to go for a few days. :lol: :lol:

I have managed to redirect him around Cambodia and Vietnam but suggested Ko Chang would be a nice stopping point (for 4 days on the way!!)

He did say he certainly would not be here this month giving me 2 weeks and then possibly towards the end of next month. So 6 weeks to finish including the bathroom. I should be ok with that. :)
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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:56 pm

Chapter 14 day 82

Wasu suggested we call at the woodyard that she had spotted on the way to her gym. She mentioned it a few days ago and I asked her to call in and ask how much the cladding was.

She returned and said they had some nice long lengths and it was 18bt/sork which I am assuming is hardwood so its only 1bt more expensive than khun Aeys.

I need certainly 2 lengths, maybe 3 for pinning to the underside of the downstand beams and I thought get another 2 plus my spare one for closing in the reveals between the new bathroom door and the original doorframe.

We didn’t have to travel far, maybe 5 minutes or so.

We arrived and the yard was no bigger than what we have and first impression, what a s**t dump. :shock: No organization, nothing tidy, piles of wood and windows everywhere. :?

Wasu led me over to a pile of blue painted cladding that had been ripped off a building without any care in the world, it was buggered and that’s being kind :roll:

None of it had been denailed, none had been repaired, none had the cable clips removed.

“is this it?” :(

“No the ones I looked at are here”

Just a few metres away there was a pile of cladding that looked a bit more like it. still full of nails and absolutely lethal. It was about 10mm thick and a typical thickness for hardwood cladding cum floorboards.

In the yard at the same time another farang couple had backed up their truck and were in the process of buying the biggest pile of crap scrap wood you ever saw. I can only imagine they were taking a traditional bonfire night celebration back home with them. I mean unless the guy had the tools to turn out hundreds of handmade chopsticks then I cant imagine why they wanted such rubbish….i reckon “art” :lol:

After a few minutes sorting and inspecting the lady owner was onto me, like a typical store pest, watching and waiting to ask what I want.

She rambled and I picked up the line “saam sip baht”

I said 18bt; she said 25bt

I stopped and turned to Wasu

“she says this lot is 30bt a sork so we may aswell go now…where is the 18bt wood that you mentioned?” :?

I shouldn’t have questioned her like that, she looked guilty yet puzzled why she was told 18bt yesterday and 30bt today and no doubt the woman was also ashamed when she realized Wasu only came yesterday to ask the price.

Is it because I am a farang and she is making the price up?...bingo :lol:

“No…… she says its 18bt”…..hmm?

Just a small thing like trying to take advantage of me changes my attitude immediately. I said forget it I will go to Ban Thi I am bored looking at this rubbish.

Wasu persuaded me to keep looking and I was reminded that even at Baan Thi they would still charge for delivery on such a small amount.

After a further 20 minutes trying to find 5 good lengths from 30 I was armlocked into paying 200bt delivery for a 4 km ride.

Anyway the good thing was they loaded their truck and he followed me back in the car. :)

Back home I made a start cleaning, sanding and then chaindriting and two hours later it was ready for using.

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However I need to progress the bedroom floor and instead I made a start with the sander stripping the red coloured floor back to its original base.

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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:09 pm

Chapter 14 day ;83;84.85

The days are flying by with not a great deal to show for it.

I have spent the best part of two days just sanding the floor to remove all the original red stain and the chamfer a lot of transitions between boards.
Some of them were literally 10mm higher than an adjacent board and I don’t want some blind geek tripping and launching himself through the patio door. :roll:

A lot of the boards had gaps between, we are talking 5mm so not insignificant.
I made an attempt to pack them with some of my slithers of wood trimming. Seeing which fitted, hammering some in but mixing the glue also to keep them in position.

The floorboards are not very good really. Well maybe 5 out of the 17 boards are hardwood and the rest well, if they are hardwood I have all the sapwood hence the termites making a meal of it.

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After sanding it all I did a further round with a new belt and then I needed to call the troops…Wasu to help me sweep out.

So much sawdust you would not believe. Everything was covered, the bathroom even with the doors shut, my tools even though they were outside and even my underpants have been thick with sawdust. I have filled a 5 gallon paint tub with dust and that’s only what I collected in the sander bag.

So Wasu started at the top…..the ceiling fan and cleaned everything and then mopped up just in order that I can chaindrite the floor.

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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:17 pm

Chapter 14 day 83, 84, 85 contd

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Another can of chaindrite used up. It really soaked into the sapwood which is a good thing I suppose, the boards of redwood were quite dense and didn’t take the chaindrite up as well but job done with half a cup of stain left. :)

Next small task was to fix the curtain brackets. There isn’t a particular rush to fit them but Wasu has now made the curtains and her last task is to sew some chain weights into the bottom hem but she needs to see where the hem line is.

It’s the patio door that’s more critical as the curtains need to drop to say 20mm from the floor but no higher than 35mm which is where the glass starts.

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Patio door fixing was easy as there were 2 pieces of steel to each jamb but the other two had issues.

The longest window at 2.2m,, because it was never fixed at the corner properly the head of the front wall over the entrance door actually protrudes beyond the window jamb by 100mm, not only that it kicks off at 45 degrees.

Fitting a standing curtain bracket would mean the curtain would open but they would only pull back to within 100mm of the window jamb.

My plan is to drill a hole in a piece of wood at 45 degress, fix it to the front wall and slide the curtain rail into it.

Typically my hole cutters are not the right size. The curtain rail is 25 diameter and I have a 22mm or a 29mm. with a 29 I managed to drill the hole and set it up over the door frame. It doesn’t look good at all, I am just hoping it will be disguised when the curtains are up.

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My other bugbare on this rail is that we have a centre bracket as I consider anything over 1.9m requiring a central support. At the point I want to fix the bracket, we have the main tree post in the way. I really don’t think I can get a screwdriver in there so I may have to hex screw it with a spanner.

Final job I was just tinkering. The boards were never cut very well around the tree posts and a couple of them could allow access for a snake very easily. I wasn’t to close the gaps but its not easy.

I decided to use some small trim and just cut it into bits and pieces and see how it looks. I can fill further gaps with glue and use the sander to tidy up any sharp edges

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Well three days and three curtain rails fixed and the floor sanded and treated that’s a big job with nothing to show.

I am ready for thinking…yes thinking about what to do in the bathroom.

I really hope I have made significant progress in the next 15 days because that’s my deadline, month end, my son could arrive anytime the following month.
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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:01 pm

Chapter 14 day 86

Day 86 plus half a dozen days off so I have been at it 3 months and more. :roll:

After standing in the bathroom for all of 10 minutes I came up with an overhaul plan and thought it better to make my suggestions to Wasu and see if she concurs.

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We both agreed to overtile the floor and try to create a step down into the shower instead of the horrible bodgit step I made 4 years ago with bricks and stair nosing trim. It was always going to be a problem and it was. I didn’t cut it short enough initially and forcing it in tight cracked the tile. Then the grooves in the top were always getting dirty and looking grubby constantly.

We agreed that the original timber boxing behind the basin should be replaced with masonry and re tiled and we would change the basin. It was a great basin 600 wide and deep enough to wash your clothes in…as we used to do before we got a big plastic bowl and before we got a washing machine.

The pedestal on that was a major nightmare and I don’t want to suffer with it again.

Most pedestals you see are an open “c” but this one was 50% closed off and the access for the waste trap was not adequate enough to get your hands in, get a spanner in, get anything in and of course the position for the bend to the drain was limited.
I bodged that one eventually with flexi wastes and pipes inside pipes knowing if ever there was a problem with it, it means removing the whole sink and a major job. Ironically it served its purpose without fault for 4 years. :)

We decided that a 550mm wide basin would be fine and offer a little more room.

I also chose to get another pedestal supported basin. Our semi ped is great with unrestricted access to the floor but for three reasons I don’t want one this time.

First our semi ped was an absolute nightmare to fit. Remember the scenario with the hanging bolts. I dont want that again. :(

Second, in a bathroom being used by others I don’t want some fat kcufer leaning on the basin whilst shaving and pulling the thing off the wall. :evil:

Third the water supply and waste pipes are also 100% definitely in the wrong place for a semi ped which means re cutting holes new holes through the outside masonry and I really have no inclination to set about that task now.

I wanted to overtile all the walls. I have fallen out with the tiles I chose then, and my plastic corner trims are coming away in places. It would add about 3k to the budget but Wasu thought it an unnecessary expense. She considered re grouting or bleaching the grout would be a better option. :?

I want to add some woodwork to it, which she agreed so I may very well remove all the corner/top edge trims and replace it with timber.
She fessed up to never liking the wall I built to compartmentalize the shower area. She thinks because it’s a small bathroom and I headed it off with glass blocks and some old fence posts from the garden that’s its now a bit overbearing.

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I tend to agree and I could lower it and remove the glass bocks and that will visually make the room appear bigger, but I think not necessary really.

We have a mains power cable running through the bathroom window and around the walls.

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I can box it in but Wasu thought we could ask the sparky to come back and re route it outside and in between the new steel we fixed. That’s a great idea if we can manage that.

There is triple socket box over the toilet! Why? Does that just not scream death to whoever uses it. No earth; not that it would make a difference but it was originally the shower area. I have had it bagged over for years and instructed Wasu never to touch it. :shock:

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And then the shower is to replace. This one doesn’t work since her parents came a year ago. It may be something and nothing but its served us well. A Fujika 4.5kw, obviously a cheapy and doesn’t have all the bells and whistles but hey I salute you Fujika and if there is the same model available I would buy again.

The bog, well it needs replacing but maybe I can get away with a seat change(says Wasu)

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So the job is reduced but I can still make a difference and still make it look appealing, even after tackling a cockarsed transition step like this.

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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:18 pm

Chapter 14 day 86 contd

And so we begin, a clear out.

I removed the basin and the pedestal after isolating the water and pushed on breaking away the remains of the timber framework.

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The flexihoses to the bog and bum gun were removed as were the flexis to the shower and the riser rails.

With the electric off I end up getting a complaint from Wasu :roll:

“is the internet off?”

“Yes because I switched off the power”

“Oh I am still confirming orders to people”

She has decided to sell another tranche of bagged coconut. Her order came yesterday and today she is bagging it all up and confirming delivery times and locations with her customers.

It wasn’t long before I switched off for a second time and then removed the shower and the shower riser rails and heads,

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I was happy to see a 4mm 3 core cable going to the shower so that’s the correct size for a 4.5kw replacement shower. After removing the shower I fitted a cable connector to the 3 bare wires for safety.

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Removing the triple socket was more difficult than the shower. But this time just the two live and neutral wires I separated them and bound them with insulation tape.

We going to keep the bog as it is but just change the seat. If I had my way with re tiling though the bog would have become a problem as the cistern is siliconed nicely on to the tiles and I really didn’t want to start adjusting that again.

Whilst removing the basin boxing I knocked the remains of the waste pipe through the wall. It just snapped off behind the the plaster so that’s a start again job. :roll:

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The water service I just unscrewed the isolator valve and dug out my big bat of bits and spares to see how I can extend the water service to the new face of the boxing.

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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:28 pm

Chapter 14 day 86 contd

I was happy to see the remains of a threaded coupling and I could just screw on another…easy….

I glued a short length of pipe to a new coupling, ptfe’d the exposed thread and tightened my new parts onto it….

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Except it wouldn’t tighten… :shock: the exposed thread had been partially stripped, presumably by the nut of the service valve.

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Its aways nice when a plan comes together but quite often you don’t get your own way.

So I have to remake both the waste pipe entry and water supply entry from a point of cutting off the existing bends into the building.

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Job done and big holes around the original holes rendered over.

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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:36 pm

Chapter 14 day 86 contd

Now I can start the back wall. I will not make it as wide as before and as the basin is only 560 wide I can make the boxing at say 650mm.

I have enough bricks but I don’t like to see the 6 remaining qcon blocks just turning black in the rain. I even have some 100mm ones from the original house build, perfect.

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On the second block I was already at the waste pipe height. Out with the hole cutters and precise measuring the cutter pissed thought it like a hot knife through butter. :)

I exaggerate, it took about 10 minutes as I kept having to clear away the debris.

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After two buckets of mortar I was ready for calling it a day but last job I chopped away the step leading into the shower.

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Its going to make it easier for me to decide how to get a step down into the shower. I don’t want to lift the new floor too much as it will make the bog lower!..not that anyone will notice 10/15mm or so.

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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby kiwimartin » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:05 pm

Are you the only Bloke on CTH to rebuild his house twice? Respect is due as you push (cheerfully?) through the termite nightmare.
I have no idea why this is not on the "Your Building Story" page....this truly is your building story! I now nip Straight to 'Life in Thailand' to see how you are progressing.
Cheers mate and keep up the great reporting!
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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:06 pm

kiwimartin wrote:Are you the only Bloke on CTH to rebuild his house twice? Respect is due as you push (cheerfully?) through the termite nightmare.
I have no idea why this is not on the "Your Building Story" page....this truly is your building story! I now nip Straight to 'Life in Thailand' to see how you are progressing.
Cheers mate and keep up the great reporting!


Ha ha; no I am not rebuilding it twice, only the old house is being rebuilt.

And why am I here?, well there was one poster who obviously felt he owned the website and thought my day trips and visiting other construction sites was not in keeping with the building story and also used to get short thrift from me.
Then the same poster seemed to want to talk about his bloody cars on his story....the irony :roll:

Well that was closed also but it should have been moved. Yes totally unfair but its no skin off my nose; I am sure my contribution here has been valuable and appreciated; but on this lost forum I am wasting time.
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Re: "Baan Thai"- My battle against Time and Termites

Postby eyecatcher » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:23 pm

Chapter 14 day 87+88

I have made some great progress in two days…but then again it is easy to make progress in a bathroom when everything is small.

Yesterday morning I completed the masonry upto the previous sill height and then pressed straight on with rendering it.

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It was only a half a day for me as I started back at the badminton afternoons. I had given the afternoon sessions a miss for about two months which isn’t good because I run the club and carry all the spare racquets and birds. :lol:

Low season isn’t really busy anyway and the standard of players that turn up unannounced …well, lets leave it to your imagination. Hasten to add I don’t go there to coach people so I have been playing with another group two evenings a week where we can really go for it and burn lots of calories.

Before I left with a half hour to burn I decided to make a template for cutting the floor tiles around the wc pan base. I just used some off cut plasterboard which was easy to carve and hopefully I can just draw the pattern onto the appropriate floor tile.

Yesterdays rendering and masonry was still there, so that’s a relief. First task today is to make the step from the room to the bathroom. :)

It’s a mess at the moment, all bloody angles because the house isn’t square, the bathroom is more trapezoidal than anything and the original door frame, well its staying put but I need to make the step square and in line with my new floor tiling.

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And for this job, a spare q con block. I can cut the taper easily, 50mm to 75mm. pack it up with mortar, fill in the voids, level it off and jobs a guddun. I will at a later stage find some timber and make a timber sill to fit on. :)

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