CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby trader » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:18 pm

MGV12 wrote:
, regional variations will always be a factor but from now on the only way is up ... and the BKK flood is the perfect excuse being used by many to escalate prices.


the bkk flood factor will wear thin very quickly :)

in the long term supply and demand is the key to price structures :) up or down :)
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby thailazer » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:44 pm

Yeah, its all a ruse. I stopped at the Number 1 bar tonight for a Beer Leo and the price was up to a 100 baht. I asked if it was due to high season and they said it was because of the flood in BKK. Odd, because up at the university, a big bottle is still 50 baht! Soak 'em when you can.
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby trader » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:52 pm

yes my local fare increased from 120 baht to 150 baht :x

same excuse bkk floods :lol:

will not return :) happy days :D

number one bar :) ummm uummm :) opened around 2007 had very good intentions to begin with :D

which has turned upside down :(

now just a run of a mill loy kroi road bar

better estabalishments to spend your cash :D
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby elgato » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:41 am

MGV12 wrote:
trader wrote:
MGV12 wrote:.. also interesting to note Jazzman's price from nearly 3 years ago as it's in the same ballpark today.


yes mgv12 but :)

jazzmans 1850 baht price were in the halycon days where most building materials (in particular steel)were going through the roof as a result from the 2007 financial melt down etc etc



Exactly ... like riding a bucking bronco ... but it has taken three years to get back there.

As with Tung's price, regional variations will always be a factor but from now on the only way is up ... and the BKK flood is the perfect excuse being used by many to escalate prices.


Price gouging is the norm with any disaster. Saw lots of it in Florida with hurricanes :evil:
I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby otis-a » Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:30 am

mr elG,
tit, and is directive from gov't, thou shalt not gouge under penality of law. So v c what sorta teeth it has. Seems it would be full time job for them stopping the likes of my wife who buy few xtra cooking oils and resell at local market for a quick 25% xtra. She came back in under 10 minutes with her quick cooker oil cash. It took her just 1 hour to sell off lottery tickets on a blanket sale.
where to park dog when in town? A barking lot... :-)))
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Postby gliffaes » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:41 am

jazzman wrote:INCREASE IN READY-MIX CONCRETE PRICES

Since writing the article on concrete above, prices have increased enormously.
Eg: Steng 280 now costs 1,900 baht per cu in cheap areas - so BKK and Pattaya residents expect to be stung :cry:

Cpac ready mix 280 steng non ganzum is 1700b m3 from cpac in pranburi as of today ganzum is 50 baht more
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby leoedgar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:43 am

Prices obtained from CPAC yesterday in Maha Sarakham (Issan) for delivery up to 15 Kms

180 Steng - 1,900 bath
210 Steng - 1,950 baht
240 Steng - 2,000 bath
280 Steng - 2,050 baht
320 Steng - 2,100 bath

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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby geordie » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:48 am

leoedgar wrote:Prices obtained from CPAC yesterday in Maha Sarakham (Issan) for delivery up to 15 Kms

180 Steng - 1,900 bath
210 Steng - 1,950 baht
240 Steng - 2,000 bath
280 Steng - 2,050 baht
320 Steng - 2,100 bath

Leo


That looks to be up 25% on what i paid for mil build unfortunately the bit that hurts more is the poor exchange rate that current :( the good times have gone
Still a damm siight cheaper than uk up to £140 a meter depending on who you use and how much =7000 bht a cube
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby jazzman » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:27 am

Prices this week (Wednesday 7 November 2012) in Nam Pong, Khon Kaen province:

Supplier #1, a go-between for supplier #2
100 Steng - ฿1,400
120 Steng - ฿1,450
140 Steng - ฿1,500
180 Steng - ฿1,550
210 Steng - ฿1,650

Supplier #2 - prices from their on-site sales office
100 Steng - ฿1,600
120 Steng - ฿1,630
140 Steng - ฿1,680
180 Steng - ฿1,720
210 Steng - ฿1,760
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby olavhome » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:12 am

Back in LOS for late summer holiday :D . Had originally planned make asphalt outside shop and own entrance for future house, but find it difficult to get prices, deliveries etc. :twisted: Getting several questions about why not use cement like other do in Thailand, I decided to lose a battle and do just that. :?
The area is about 540 m2 and plan make cement 15cm, take inside iron mats on rolls and divide into sectors max 6X4meters. This mean i need about 81m# (u) of CPAC. (Will use CPAC for this project because o quality and strenght)
Got an offer from a person who said he take care of everything for a total og thb 325.000,
Told him I Like to think about his offer and Check Internet, he promptly redused to thb 275.000 whick I still think is Falang Price :evil: :evil: .
Whats your opinion :?:

My alternative is to buy the iron and CPAC wood for dividing myself and then get some local changs to do the spreading and levelling. :idea:
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby jazzman » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:53 am

You generally need to use at least Steng 180 for a vehicle bearing driveway, apron, or car park.
Here in Isan prices vary from ฿t1,550 to 1,760 per m for ready-mix concrete. At the very best price, that would cost ฿124,000 and ฿142,560 at the higher price.

For a complete job which should include preparation of the substrate, hardcore and sand, compacting with a mechanical compactor (essential), steel, concrete, and labour, around ฿500 per m2 is acceptable if quoted by a proper company with corporate overheads to maintain. Casual labourers should be able to quote somewhat less, but there's no getting around the materials prices.

On large areas and concrete thicker tha 10cm, and that are expected to support the weight of vehicles, it is advisable to use not only wire mesh, but also a grid of RB9 @ 0.80 on driveways, or DB12 @ 1.00 on larger areas. The steel must be propped up to ensure that it remains in the middle of the cast.
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby olavhome » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:43 pm

Had BIG tractor levelling extra today. Soil was very hard and he had problems redusing heights with the tractor. So think10 cm will be enough, just put in a couple of extra iron on the most critical spots.
The most spectacular happening during the task was a water pipe turning up just a few cm below surface. Happily soon everything wll be covered in cement so nobody can bury things there anymore. :evil:
(Was my son in law that put down a pipe so MIL could easy give nam to her vegetables50 meters away. Know about that, paid for the pipes :lol:
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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby pipoz » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:04 pm

jazzman wrote:Prices this week (Wednesday 7 November 2012) in Nam Pong, Khon Kaen province:

Supplier #1, a go-between for supplier #2
100 Steng - ฿1,400
120 Steng - ฿1,450
140 Steng - ฿1,500
180 Steng - ฿1,550
210 Steng - ฿1,650

Supplier #2 - prices from their on-site sales office
100 Steng - ฿1,600
120 Steng - ฿1,630
140 Steng - ฿1,680
180 Steng - ฿1,720
210 Steng - ฿1,760


One thing about Thailand, Readymix Concrete is so cheap at US 50 - 60 per m3

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Re: CONCRETE MIXES, STRENGTHS, PRICES & USES

Postby pipoz » Sun May 11, 2014 1:08 pm

Hi,

Does anyone have a current price list from CPAC (for the Udon Thani area) for the Concrete Strengths with their respective price per m3?

Or have anyone recently bought CPAC 280 or 320 Steng CPAC Ready mix in the Udon Thani area? If so what was the rate per m3

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What is "Steng"? Is it a distorted Thai version of "Strength

Postby Khunchai » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:35 pm

Please excuse my ignorance, what is "Steng"? Is it a distorted Thai version of the English word "Strength"?

In the agreement we are about to sign, our construction team boss wants to specify the concrete mix grade as ปูนซีเมนต์ปอร์ตแลนด์ ประเภท 1 หรือปูนผสมเสร็จกำลังอัด 240 กก./ตร.ซม.ขึ้นไป

Which I translate into English as "ready-mixed cement or mortar with compressive strength of 240 kg / sq.cm. or more"

Is it the same as "Steng" number 240?

So when we say "Steng" 240, do we mean the compressive strength of the dried concrete measured in kilograms per square centimeter?

Is my understanding correct or not :?:
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