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Colorbond?

Postby udon » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:13 am

Hi Attila
did you contact Colorbond in LOS for prices?
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Postby Attila » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:02 am

the limey wrote:Attila, I havent seen many fords for 11 million baht here, but they have a few porshes at that price, bit out of my price range I might add :(


No no, it is the other way round, not the Ford for the price of a Porsche, but the Porsche for the price of a Ford. :wink: So if a better Ford would be in your price range, than such a Porsche would be too. But sorry, that was in another life, not in LOS. Here I prefer a stronger SUV. And I didn't find the Cayenne yet for the Isuzu price :(

the limey wrote:Ahhh,yes back to roofs, by cement tiles I assume you mean the ones that look like the old asbestos tiles, lightweight etc, 600baht per meter,


No, I mean the usual small and heavy cement tiles for 10 - 20 baht per tile, the ones which you see on almost all farang village houses, often in red color.

the limey wrote:by clay tiles I assume you mean like the monier range which are small and thick and very heavy, 2000 odd baht per sq met.


Yes. Something like on the roofs of a wat or on Cruzings beautiful Spanish style villa, but may be not that special that a special order would be needed.

the limey wrote:Even the aluminum roofing is 600baht per sq met, as for colorbond I have know idea as I have never used it and wouldn't take on that sort of job due to my lack of knowledge of it.

Limey, roof and steel together, but without labor, how much would that be ~ per square meter, for
- a roof with clay tiles?
- a roof with cement tiles (probably needing even more steel)?
- and then for synthetic roofing, (lightweight, needing not so much steel)?


sorry I have no idea of prices without labour.


So that means that the prices you mention are including all prices. Starting at 600 b / m2, that's good to know.

the limey wrote:But I hope you enjoy your second hand roof :)


Actually, I wouldn't mind to use used clay tiles, they can last very very long. About the others, I don't know.
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roof

Postby cruzing » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:33 pm

Attila wrote:
the limey wrote:Attila.

I'm sure if you looked through the blog you will find many types of roofing, believe it or not these differ in costs, a bit like cars do, ie you don't get a porshe for ford money, roofing cost's from 600baht to 2,300baht per sq met depending on weight and size of the roofing panels.


Well, I got my Porsche for Ford money, and that's what I would like to have with my roof too. (OK, it was a second hand Porsche, but as good as new :D )

Builder 1: "I don't do synthetic roofing. Garbage, I do not touch. With cement tiles your roof is 500000"

Builder 2: "What's wrong with synthetic roofing? We do it often, also for farangs. For your roof the price is between 500000 and 2 million, depending on what you want to put on it".

About the tiles, I do not need tons of weight on my roof, and the steel to carry it. A synthetic roof could do it, if I really see the cost advantage, like my roof for 200000 instead of 500000. Colorbond seems to be looking even better than synthetic roofing, so I'm open for that too.

Cruzing
Again, even for synthetic roofing:
Attila wrote:600 baht / squaremeter would be 144000 baht, where can I sign the order, please!


Well, i probably end up doing it myself, with some thai workers who know how to weld, and a nice architect looking at the house and explaining where to put the trusses and how many etc. (Meaning I stand there and try not to look stupid and the Thai workers work and I apply what I learned on Coolthaihouse to drop a not too wrong comment from time to time :wink: )

Limey, roof and steel together, but without labor, how much would that be ~ per square meter, for
- a roof with clay tiles?
- a roof with cement tiles (probably needing even more steel)?
- and then for synthetic roofing, (lightweight, needing not so much steel)?


Hi Attila,

You have been to my house several times so you know the strength and pitch of our roof.

Here is the cost break down for you. This is for 300 sq meters

Clay tiles 180,0000 baht approx. (13 baht each asking price, we paid a little less. )

Copper roof flashing 11,529 baht

Copper wire to tie down EACH tile 6,412 baht

Steel 169,040

Total for 300 sq meters. 435, 452 baht (includes some misc. supplies)

Here are some links for other roofing and soffit materials.

http://www.siamfibrecement.com/tindex.asp

http://www.windsor.co.th

Some tile websites:
http://www.keratiles.co.th

http://www.l-thai.com/glazed.htm
I've used their tile. some of the same tiles as APK, but a little cheaper and just off Srinakarin road.

http://www.winflor.com
stamped concrete used for driveways and walkways.

PAT
http://www.pratooautanomati.com
For gate openers, water filters, pumps, pool equipment. We bought our gate opener and big water filter from them. Very good discounts at home shows.

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Re: roof

Postby Attila » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:26 pm

cruzing wrote:...
Hi Attila,

You have been to my house several times so you know the strength and pitch of our roof.

Here is the cost break down for you. This is for 300 sq meters

Clay tiles 180,0000 baht approx. (13 baht each asking price, we paid a little less. )

Copper roof flashing 11,529 baht

Copper wire to tie down EACH tile 6,412 baht

Steel 169,040

Total for 300 sq meters. 435, 452 baht (includes some misc. supplies)

Here are some links for other roofing and soffit materials.

http://www.siamfibrecement.com/tindex.asp

http://www.windsor.co.th

Some tile websites:
http://www.keratiles.co.th

http://www.l-thai.com/glazed.htm
I've used their tile. some of the same tiles as APK, but a little cheaper and just off Srinakarin road.

http://www.winflor.com
stamped concrete used for driveways and walkways.

PAT
http://www.pratooautanomati.com
For gate openers, water filters, pumps, pool equipment. We bought our gate opener and big water filter from them. Very good discounts at home shows.

Cruzing


Now that is a useful post, thanks so much, Cruzing.

Your roof is looking great, and certainly well built, so if that had costs of under 500000 then I know that I can get my roof for not more than that, even with clay tiles. :D

And if I use the "prima" tiles (cement / synthetic) which the company in your link http://www.siamfibrecement.com/tindex.asp offers than I should save a lot of steel.

And to see this price "Steel 169,040" is extremely helpful to me, thanks, that is where I had been quite unsure about the costs.

I liked the fixing of each single tile with a copper wire in your roof. looking at the costs it is not that much - small costs only but a big difference! Nice!

Looking at the price of your tiles, 13 baht, and taking into consideration that your Spanish style roof does need a lot of tiles, due to its 100% overlapping and the small tile size, I even get the idea that it is possible to get a clay tile roof for not much more than a concrete tile roof.

Your costs with the clay tiles had been 1510 baht / squaremeter, So it is not even the 2000 baht, probably because labor is not included. So that fits well with the prices limey gave.

Thanks again,
Attila
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Postby the limey » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:05 pm

Your costs with the clay tiles had been 1510 baht / squaremeter, So it is not even the 2000 baht, probably because labor is not included. So that fits well with the prices limey gave.

Thanks again,
Attila


well I aint sitting here posting hoping to tell you lies, I am sitting here telling you how much things cost from a contractors point of view, I really don't give a fcuk whether you believe me or not.
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Postby the limey » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:07 pm

Plus we weld roof tiles down, ie stick a 3 inch nail through the tile and then weld it to the steel.
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Postby cruzing » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:23 am

the limey wrote:
Your costs with the clay tiles had been 1510 baht / squaremeter, So it is not even the 2000 baht, probably because labor is not included. So that fits well with the prices limey gave.

Thanks again,
Attila


well I aint sitting here posting hoping to tell you lies, I am sitting here telling you how much things cost from a contractors point of view, I really don't give a fcuk whether you believe me or not.


Khun Limey,

I don't think Attila was questioning your pricing I think from the prices I gave him he was just agreeing with what you said. No reflection on you at all.

Our tiles are also concreted in place besides the tie downs. Used copper, don't want no rust. I would think, and maybe you do, that each weld joint would have to be primed.

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Postby Attila » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:14 pm

the limey wrote:
Your costs with the clay tiles had been 1510 baht / squaremeter, So it is not even the 2000 baht, probably because labor is not included. So that fits well with the prices limey gave.

Thanks again,
Attila


well I aint sitting here posting hoping to tell you lies, I am sitting here telling you how much things cost from a contractors point of view, I really don't give a [foul language] whether you believe me or not.



:shock: Oops, Limey, get a coffee and a smile, and read again what I wrote. No hint of not believing you at all! Just confirming that Cruzings experience and your experience tell me the same thing. Cruzing's roof is at 1500 without labor, so an including all price from you for something like that would probably be 2000, and having both of you giving these figures is very helpful for me, and very much appreciated, indeed. :D
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Decra Tile

Postby painless » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:34 pm

For any interested and also has anyone used this product. Decra stone coated steel roof tiles.
This is my current choice due to its light weight and appearance. 7kgm^2
http://www.ahiroofing.com.my/home/home.aspx
about $USD10.20 a square metre ex factory Malaysia.
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Re: Decra Tile

Postby old_expat » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:41 pm

painless wrote:For any interested and also has anyone used this product. Decra stone coated steel roof tiles.
This is my current choice due to its light weight and appearance. 7kgm^2
http://www.ahiroofing.com.my/home/home.aspx
about $USD10.20 a square metre ex factory Malaysia.


Those shakes look really nice although I would prefer some lighter color options. I wonder if the surface coating is sufficient for dampening the sound of heavy rains
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