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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby Ebenezer » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:12 pm

The 'rice farmers' were as good as their word and returned on 15 December to resume building.posting.php?mode=reply&f=4&t=2856#
Outer and inner walls (with door frames and locations for window frames) are near enough completed now.
The roof support system, roof insulation is also nearly completed and the tiling (CPAC Monier) is well advanced.
(I have sorted out how to reduce pic sizes so see my gallery for pics)
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby thailazer » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:19 pm

Ebenezer wrote:The 'rice farmers' were as good as their word and returned on 15 December to resume building.posting.php?mode=reply&f=4&t=2856#
Outer and inner walls (with door frames and locations for window frames) are near enough completed now.
The roof support system, roof insulation is also nearly completed and the tiling (CPAC Monier) is well advanced.
(I have sorted out how to reduce pic sizes so see my gallery for pics)

Eb... That sounds good! Our builders have taken off time to harvest rice, then to plant soy bean. It is just plain part of the culture here so you have to go with the flow. The good news for us is that they work in the fields right in front of our build so they always see who is there and what is going on. So far, no theft. Our builders are doing great work in a pulse-power mode. We are up to beam steel in place for the second floor and as soon as they find forms to rent, that will be done. We started on 11-11-11 to give you an idea of how we are doing. Quality so far seems very high. Good luck up there in CR land.
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby Ebenezer » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:34 pm

Ebenezer wrote:
tangaroa67 wrote:Hi Ebenezer,

I wonder if you have any updates on your build, plans, builders etc?

I'll likely be starting my own build here around this time next year, so I'll be following your progress with interest!

All the best,

Luke

Thanks for the prompt - your plot looks great and very big. The foundations on mine are completed now and will update my blog when I figure out how to add photos of correct dimensions!


Hi Luke,

My build is progressing well and you can see the pics on my gallery if you are interested.
I have learned that some compromises are necessary when building in Thailand, especially when you want to do something out of the ordinary by Thai standards. As you plan to build in the same area as me be prepared for difficulties in sourcing materials such as Colorbond roofing or AAC bricks of more than 7.5cm thickness. Many others with postings have used these but I could not locate a supplier in Chiang Rai. If you want to use these you will need to plan well in advance and the cost of bringing in from further afield will be higher.

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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby tangaroa67 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:32 pm

Ebenezer wrote:My build is progressing well and you can see the pics on my gallery if you are interested.
I have learned that some compromises are necessary when building in Thailand, especially when you want to do something out of the ordinary by Thai standards. As you plan to build in the same area as me be prepared for difficulties in sourcing materials such as Colorbond roofing or AAC bricks of more than 7.5cm thickness. Many others with postings have used these but I could not locate a supplier in Chiang Rai. If you want to use these you will need to plan well in advance and the cost of bringing in from further afield will be higher.Eb


I can see you're progressing well and it's looking good! The roof looks great. AM I right in thinking you wanted a colorbond roof, but accepted CPAC as a compromise?
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby Ebenezer » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:47 pm

Yes, I am not an expert but looking at various accounts of those more experienced than me it seemed from a thermal capacity perspective Colorbond was preferred. The problem with concrete tiles is that once they are heated by the sun it can take a few hours for them to cool down again whereas Colorbond cools down quickly and does not therefore continue to radiate heat after the sun has gone down. Having said that, CPAC Monier tiles seem to be well-made and I find them quite attractive and relatively inexpensive. I have attempted to overcome the thermal inertia issue by choosing a tile colour with good reflectivity (i.e. light coloured where white is best and black is worst) and have used insulation under the tiles and will also incorporate insulation in the ceiling.
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby otis-a » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:57 am

eb wrote ''I could not locate a supplier in Chiang Rai. ''
The color bond type metal roof with prefab underside insulation is made in big metals shop on north side of chg mai highway. If traveling west on hwy, his shop is north side of highway about 2 km past amway building. Believe name was Golden Tiger or something like that. He is well known in the area as had to ask like 3 places to find it. There are 2 smaller metal supply houses in same area. First girl told me a bit too close to city so took a bit o asking to find him.
I visit during roof selection for our inet cafe. When told him my roof budget, he just laughed. Apparently the metal roof cost is not even close to standard thai elephant roofing. But it looks good. He has lots of past job pics to show. He was also kind enuf to let me visit his fab shop out back. There they fab the roof pannels in CR. Interesting process to look at from engineering standpoint.
where to park dog when in town? A barking lot... :-)))
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby thailazer » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:10 pm

Eb.... Thread below has a good discussion about steel roofs. We went with the El Cheng company's product. They have a rep in Chiang Mai and perhaps they have one in Chiang Rai as well. Like Colorbond, their product is also a zinc/aluminum-cladded steel substrate sheet that has had a lot of engineering testing to verify its expected life span. The quoting process was very professional and we are hoping to have it up in 60 days. We included a pressed on foil insulation layer as well.

http://www.coolthaihouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1434
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby Ebenezer » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:39 pm

Update 29 Jan 2012

All the rendering of the walls is complete now and also decorative concrete mouldings have been added (100 - 220 baht per metre). Ceilings and lighting to be fitted this week but have still not found a local supplier of simple fibreglass wool for ceiling insulation, and hopefully tiling will begin the week after. Completion still on schedule for the end of February.
I found it difficult to get a decent discount for air conditioners locally but found a supplier in Bangkok who gave more than 20% discount and they also delivered to Chiang Rai free of charge.
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby thailazer » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:53 am

Eb... Congratulations on the progress. Sounds like things are moving along well. Our workers were putting up scaffolding yesterday so rendering should start on our place in a week or two as well.

What is the name of the company in BKK with the good discounts on Air Conditioners? We are looking as well.
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby Ebenezer » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:59 am

Glad to hear you have made so much progress.
The company I bought from is called Topcool and their web site is http://www.topcoolair.com
If you contact Mr Virat he is very helpful and speaks English. Make sure you clarify whether
there is a delivery charge. For my units they delivered to a company in Chiang Rai where I
collected the units to also avoid a 500 baht local delivery charge.
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby tangaroa67 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:50 pm

Hi Eb,

Just wondered how the build is progressing and whether you have anything new to share with us? :D
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby Ebenezer » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:54 pm

tangaroa67 wrote:Hi Eb,

Just wondered how the build is progressing and whether you have anything new to share with us? :D


Thanks for your interest Tangaroa. Yes, everything continues well, much to my amazement. As a novice in these things I hope this will be an encouragement to other novice project managers to take the plunge. In the last few weeks the wall render has been painted inside and outside (Dulux weatheshield Max), ceilings have been fitted and floor tiles inside completed (just some outside tiling to do). The only major items left to do are the electrics (sockets and lighting etc), door fitting and windows installation. I have selected a specialist contractor for the windows who was about 30% cheaper than a major shop in the city.

The only bad news is that I am going to be over budget. Its entirely my own fault because I have chosen some additional items (such as exterior wall decor and interior ceiling decor) and have upgraded a number of items (such as using teak doors throughout, having granite tops for kitchen and patio surfaces and always going for high grade steels and cement options).

I have clearly been blessed with competent and helpful builders and have nothing but praise for their hard work and the standard of their workmanship. I have had to compromise on some issues but nothing that has caused me major concern and the result has been a good working relationship with them. Nothing to do with keeping them supplied with whisky of course!

I have decided to use the same builders for the drive and a carport which are not part of the original contract.

I will upload a few of the latest pics for anyone interested in seeing the current status.
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Re: Hello from Chiang Rai

Postby tangaroa67 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:32 am

Thanks for the update. It's great to hear it's on track and you're happy. I know from my building experiences here how important it is to have trust in your builders. Sounds like you've fallen on your feet.

i wouldn't beat yourself up too much over the budget. You're going to be living there after all, so you might as well be comfortable.

I look forward to seeing some more photo's when get chance. :D
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