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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby rchapstick » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:43 am

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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby rchapstick » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:01 am

OK, I have no idea why those pictures posted upside down. Nor do I have any idea how to fix it. You will just need to use your imagination here .....
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby rchapstick » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:08 am

Finally, we added a driveway and walkway with pavers. We also built a cottage for the housekeeper, and added a pergola between the big house and the bungalow.

We had a separate company do the landscaping. Here's the finished product!

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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby rchapstick » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:18 am

In hindsight, we were remarkably fortunate to have found our builder. He was incredibly easy for me to work with, both on site and while I was away. As I said early on, he wasn't the cheapest builder, but was far from the most expensive. His attention to detail and quality was outstanding. At the end, I had far fewer problems that needed to be addressed than I did with the house I build in California 20 years ago.

That said, I think it is important to deal with a Thai builder in the right way. I always praised publicly, but if there was something that I did not like, I did it privately. I never got angry or raised my voice. If I saw something I didn't like, rather than being confrontational, I said "I'm not sure I agree with how this is being done". Problems never festered. In the end, after all payments were made, a couple of small problems cropped up, and he came around quickly to fix them. Given all of the horror stories one reads here, I often felt I was doing this in another country.

Another key to the success of my build was that I did my homework up front. This board was a godsend, so thanks to all who came before me and documented their builds.

If anyone in the area is going to do a build, I'd be more than happy to meet and discuss. Just PM me.
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:01 am

What lighting did you use in the recess?

And how was it fitted?
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby claynlr » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:07 am

Awesome looking home! Who did your uPVC windows?
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby rchapstick » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:12 am

It's a strip LED light in an aluminum channel, with an opaque plastic diffuser covering the lights
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:23 am

rchapstick wrote:It's a strip LED light in an aluminum channel, with an opaque plastic diffuser covering the lights

Is it continuous or separate sections?

The one that I'm installing now is made up of individual LED strip lights with 3 circuits, and 2 circuits in the raised ceiling area, so I can dim the lighting very easily without trying to find dimmable strips, something that doesn't seem to be available in Thailand yet.

I can also change the angle of the lights, about 45 degrees is looking to be about right.
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby rchapstick » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:06 am

Sometimewoodworker wrote:
rchapstick wrote:It's a strip LED light in an aluminum channel, with an opaque plastic diffuser covering the lights

Is it continuous or separate sections?

The one that I'm installing now is made up of individual LED strip lights with 3 circuits, and 2 circuits in the raised ceiling area, so I can dim the lighting very easily without trying to find dimmable strips, something that doesn't seem to be available in Thailand yet.

I can also change the angle of the lights, about 45 degrees is looking to be about right.


Each ceiling well has a single transformer, with a single circuit powering the lights. the led strips in the aluminum channels aren't flexible, so the strips are wired together. The down led lights are dimmable, but the strip lights and the sconce lights are not.
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby rchapstick » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:32 am

claynlr wrote:Awesome looking home! Who did your uPVC windows?


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Re: Bang Saray House Build - pilings

Postby FurryFerret » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:19 am

Can you help please. I'm about to start work on a small two storey house in BangSaray and I'm intrigued over pilings. Are these a requirement of could you use foundation walls instead. The reason I ask is bcse my plot is between two other existing houses and I'm not sure that they would take the stress of the pounding.
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Re: Bang Saray House Build - pilings

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:31 am

FurryFerret wrote:Can you help please. I'm about to start work on a small two storey house in BangSaray and I'm intrigued over pilings. Are these a requirement of could you use foundation walls instead. The reason I ask is bcse my plot is between two other existing houses and I'm not sure that they would take the stress of the pounding.

If you need pilings or can use a different system depends on the structure of the land you are building on and the weight of your building.

For example in Bangkok if you don't use pilings your house will probably sink. Where my house is they are not needed.

You don't have to hammer the pilings down, you can drill, this will minimise disturbance on nearby buildings. For bigger buildings this is the standard method with the pilings cast in place.

Foundation walls are very unusual due to the standard post and beam structure, with infill walls, of the vast majority of houses. The standard is to use pads under the posts.

A foundation wall structure is used with load bearing walls and you will find few, if any, builders who can or will use them.
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby rchapstick » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:53 pm

Agree 100% with sometimewoodworker

The engineer at the Bang Saray tesabaan is actually pretty good. Based on your design, he could probably tell you whether you need pilings or just footings based on the weight of your structure and the soil composition.

If there buildings are nearby and you need pilings, then you really should screw them in. You could seriously damage neighboring structures.
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby Klondyke » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:55 am

A foundation ring wall is sometimes much more effective and easier (and cheaper) to make when have a sturdy good soil. When calculated the foundation surface - width x length around - it is mostly larger than the total surface of the number of the pads under the posts.

And it can be immediately started with laying bricks/blocks on the foundation. Especially, when decided not to have the posts/columns (sau) structure with the difficult and time consuming beam formwork, but having self-carrying walls - and with cavity for thermal insulation. Disadvantage: have to persuade the builder that there are other building style than the usual Thai "saus". Unless you build an 8- story tower. :D
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Re: Bang Saray House Build

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:16 pm

Klondyke wrote:A foundation ring wall is sometimes much more effective and easier (and cheaper) to make when have a sturdy good soil. When calculated the foundation surface - width x length around - it is mostly larger than the total surface of the number of the pads under the posts.

And it can be immediately started with laying bricks/blocks on the foundation. Especially, when decided not to have the posts/columns (sau) structure with the difficult and time consuming beam formwork, but having self-carrying walls - and with cavity for thermal insulation. Disadvantage: have to persuade the builder that there are other building style than the usual Thai "saus". Unless you build an 8- story tower. :D


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sometmewoodworker wrote:Foundation walls are very unusual -snip-
A foundation wall structure is used with load bearing walls and you will find few, if any, builders who can or will use them.


While it may be cheaper and slightly faster you will have the added costs of ensuring that they are correctly designed and that the roof isn't going to spread the walls apart and collapse the structure. You may also have to use a company to build and that will more than wipe out any prospective cost savings.

The standard houses have free well engineered plans available. So unless you are capable of designing the structure of your house with load bearing foundation walls and house walls, will there be any savings?
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