Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby andymac » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:10 pm

Hi SWW

Same question here as Pipoz, great looking beams. I tried and failed to get what I wanted as far as I beams concerned, I think it was a cost thing. I had to improvise.
Your project's progressing great.
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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:25 pm

pipoz wrote:Nice I Beams

Can I ask what size are they and what weight per linear meter? i. UB 500 x ......x ......

pipoz



I've asked SWMBO to ask our builder/architect next time he is here

Back to the build
9th January

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The first truss starts


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Plates on top of the beams for ring beam hight



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Front of house posts


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Continuing with steps


To be continued
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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:38 pm

9th January continued
Mistake number 2 or 3
It isn't a big problem, what happens if you don't measure twice and cut once

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Measure once cut twice


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Measure once cut twice


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More stairs rebar
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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:54 pm

10th January

Stairs, top beam support, truss, reinforcing for 1 room, filling missing concrete in post.
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10cm rise on steps for old people


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Filling up the post


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Fill weld on base of truss with tacks on other sections


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Not enough steel to continue


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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:58 pm

andymac wrote:Hi SWW

Same question here as Pipoz, great looking beams. I tried and failed to get what I wanted as far as I beams concerned, I think it was a cost thing. I had to improvise.
Your project's progressing great.


Thanks, yes it does look that way from here in Japan.

The speed of the project increase is in inverse proportion to the drop in my available money :? :(

I just hope the first finishes before the second.
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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:07 pm

14th January part 1

What do you do when your rebar is about 4 metres high

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Power outlet


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Ready for concrete
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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:15 pm

pipoz wrote:Nice I Beams

Can I ask what size are they and what weight per linear meter? i. UB 500 x ......x ......

pipoz


Information given is H-350*175*7*11 and 49.6kg metre

So I think it is 35cm x 17.5cm and the 7 and 11 are the thicknesses
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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby pipoz » Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:58 pm

Sometimewoodworker wrote:
pipoz wrote:Nice I Beams

Can I ask what size are they and what weight per linear meter? i. UB 500 x ......x ......

pipoz


Information given is H-350*175*7*11 and 49.6kg metre

So I think it is 35cm x 17.5cm and the 7 and 11 are the thicknesses


Thanks and I like those H Beams, need to get a couple for myself.

Just curious as to how you intend to use the H Beams in your workshop?

What span are you planning to use them over, 6 or 7 or possibly 8 m span? between columns?

I gather that you will support them at the ends on two columns and that you intend to run a motorized crane along the bottom flange of the beam? Is that correct or close to it?

I also suspect that you do not intend to build on top of the beam or to introduce any other point loading on the top of the beam?

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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:24 pm

pipoz wrote:
Sometimewoodworker wrote:
pipoz wrote:Nice I Beams

Can I ask what size are they and what weight per linear meter? i. UB 500 x ......x ......

pipoz


Information given is H-350*175*7*11 and 49.6kg metre

So I think it is 35cm x 17.5cm and the 7 and 11 are the thicknesses


Thanks and I like those H Beams, need to get a couple for myself.

Just curious as to how you intend to use the H Beams in your workshop?

What span are you planning to use them over, 6 or 7 or possibly 8 m span? between columns?

I gather that you will support them at the ends on two columns and that you intend to run a motorized crane along the bottom flange of the beam? Is that correct or close to it?

I also suspect that you do not intend to build on top of the beam or to introduce any other point loading on the top of the beam?

pipoz


The original plan by my architect was to have the crane running on top of the beams

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However I felt that since the loading is unlikely to be great I felt that the kind under would be good enough.

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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby eyecatcher » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:42 pm

Sometimewoodworker wrote:
pipoz wrote:Nice I Beams

Can I ask what size are they and what weight per linear meter? i. UB 500 x ......x ......

pipoz


Information given is H-350*175*7*11 and 49.6kg metre

So I think it is 35cm x 17.5cm and the 7 and 11 are the thicknesses


Those sizes are interesting in that I suspect they are rounded up or there is more than one "universal" standard.
The standard for this beam is actually 356x171 x45 or51kg depending on whether the web thickness is 7mm or 7.4mm (to be awfullly pedantic :wink: )

Were you asked for a maximum loading; because despite its size if its an unsupported beam spanning what? 7/8m the maximum load may surprise you it could well be less than 2.5ton.

as an aside; the beams they use in Global house in C.M, to carry all their steel stock are a much smaller section but span a relatively short distance and they have a loading limit of 3 ton

Cost wise, steel is more expensive here than the Uk, when i was costing my job as a steel structure it was heading around 60k baht/ton whereas readymix concrete is about 1000bt per ton. with labour so cheap, this is why you don't see many steel structures.

ok, so I see its two major beams, carrying a traveller beam...
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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:50 am

eyecatcher wrote:
Sometimewoodworker wrote:
pipoz wrote:Nice I Beams

Can I ask what size are they and what weight per linear meter? i. UB 500 x ......x ......

pipoz


Information given is H-350*175*7*11 and 49.6kg metre

So I think it is 35cm x 17.5cm and the 7 and 11 are the thicknesses


Those sizes are interesting in that I suspect they are rounded up or there is more than one "universal" standard.
The standard for this beam is actually 356x171 x45 or51kg depending on whether the web thickness is 7mm or 7.4mm (to be awfullly pedantic :wink: )

Were you asked for a maximum loading; because despite its size if its an unsupported beam spanning what? 7/8m the maximum load may surprise you it could well be less than 2.5ton.

ok, so I see its two major beams, carrying a traveller beam...

When I was getting the pictures from Facebook I missed about 10

So there are three more. And if the loading is more than about 500kg then it is within spec. As I intend it for moving wood and woodworking machines, none of the machines exceed 200kg to the best of my knowledge

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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby pipoz » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:49 am

Ok understand.

So with your crane running along the bottom flange of the two main beams, you are not sitting those beams on a column Corbel? So how are you hanging or supporting/fixing the two main beams?

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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:21 pm

pipoz wrote:Ok understand.

So with your crane running along the bottom flange of the two main beams, you are not sitting those beams on a column Corbel? So how are you hanging or supporting/fixing the two main beams?

pipoz


Hanging off the roof steel AFIK
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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:27 am

Really 14th January (part 1 was the 13th) concrete pour and some more rebar work


Good driving

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Stairs that are easy for older people


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Part of the top will be steel and part concrete 1


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Part of the top will be steel and part concrete 2


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Re: Workshop and house, Non Sa-At ½ way between KK & Udon

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:42 am

15th January

The side and riser shuttering comes off

Another mistake is found, thank goodness I'm not paying per day or buying material, and it's a big time waste but not such a big material waste

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Front stairs


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Front stairs


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Kitchen stairs


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Kitchen stairs


The steel that should be used in the trusses arrived from Udon today. The steel group is not happy as they have a per job payment.

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