Koh Phangan Coconut Build

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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby fredlk » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:13 am

kiwimartin wrote:no-one uses wood for anything anymore?

I had a termite system laid under the house but with 3 dogs and the space being open, I have never used it and not needed it because I made sure that there was no wood left in any of the walls or floors. In the garden there are planks and the bark of trees being devoured by termites. Within 6 months it's pulp and then they move on to their next victim. I even have a dead tree stump being bored out by bumblebees. They are using the inside as a hive:
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby Klondyke » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:06 am

Klondyke wrote: A good help against termites (pluak) is a primer paint Dry Shell (not sure about the spelling - all locals know that under this name, there are few kinds). This is very necesary on the downside of the boards - not exposed - especially when it comes into a contact with a concrete surface. The termites like to work there secretly in a dark.


Sorry for the misspelling, just by chance discovered it hidden, never look at it properly. Here it is correct:
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:48 am

Thanks for the info on Chaindrite Klondyke.

The land being terraced...the digger contractor back after a 3 wedding (not his....)
Master bedroom
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Guest bedroom
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby fredlk » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:58 am

Your hill looks quite steep. I'm on a 1 in 20 slope but when the rains come a huge amount of water comes down past the house. I am at 60 metres altitude and the top of the hill 300 metres to my rear is 250 metres high. I can't make out if you have anything higher up behind you, but make sure your back wall is deep enough into the ground so that the soil does not get washed away from under it.
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:25 am

Good advice Fred,
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comes the hill
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We will look at a drain or flattened area behind the house to divert the water past the house into the riverbed below.
This is a rear view from up the hill.
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby Sometimewoodworker » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:45 am

With the current situation regarding encroachment on national parks and buildings being torn down I hope you are not in the Than Sadet – Ko Pha-ngan National Park area and that you have a chanot title to your land.

If you are in the park then the life span of your building could be short.
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:18 am

UUUUffffffff Jerome - a dark cloud just swept across my brow....er ...ok, the sun is back again!

Yes the title is Chanot, and the land is out of the National park and is below 80 metres (just)...The building approvals were completed 3 weeks back so everything seems to be as bulletproof as it can be...

But your advice is sage for anyone planning to buy in these areas. The rules have been republished for Samui, Phangan and Phuket and are quite strict.

The last page of a rather arcane document was issued recently...it restricts shellfish collection, and houses above 80m with a roof height of 6m and from having anything other than earth-toned roofs.
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:13 pm

Meccho in the master bedroom
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Worker's H.Q.
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Worker using H.Q.
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:53 pm

Footings holes....down to rock in places. Should hold...
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Base for footings in before steel work and forms placed for pouring foundations
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Double footings to support the pool - marked on the footings plan.
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The form work will be added this weekend for readymix pour on Monday...or Tuesday :roll:
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:58 am

A tranquil Monday morning and the pour is on..
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Footings boxed and ready to go
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Readymix chanelled to pour site
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I have hired an English project manager from the island who has his own team. Watching this develop from Bangkok is all rather exciting. The project manager has been brilliant right through the design process and I have no doubt will be throughout the build. He has worked with his builder on other projects and both have been completely prepared at each step. I am very glad to be able to step back - I probably do know just enough to have really got myself in trouble had I been guiding the ship.

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Kevin McCloud suggests that if you can "Hire a project manager. A big project will drain you night and day, but the ride need only be as hard or as easy as you make it … People have got to get over the fear of not being able to trust others. I come across people who are very successful in their own sphere, and really believe they can do it all themselves, but they can't." That would've been me if I had a little more spare time!
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby fredlk » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:17 pm

kiwimartin wrote:I have hired an English project manager from the island who has his own team. Watching this develop from Bangkok is all rather exciting.

I was wondering about how you were going about it. I suppose you're paying a premium having a foreigner doing it, or ....... am I wrong?
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:44 pm

Hi Fred,
We negotiated a fee of 15% of the total build price for the Project Manager's fee (labour and materials). We actually have found some ways of saving money after receiving the BOQ, but agreed with the PM's fee remaining fixed at a cost based on the original estimate. In this way he is happy (and has indeed helped) to streamline the build financially, without it compromising his own payment.
To date that 15% fee has been worth every cent. We anticipate a build of 5-6 months - which with the PM's management skills really does seem do-able. He is also is able to run interference with the builders, but this does not seem too onerous as he has an experienced team with whom he works on a regular basis.
Some of the experiences of members here mean this strategy for us was a no-brainer - at least in terms of maintaining our own good humour and love of life in Thailand, where we plan to retire at a later date.
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:51 pm

Boxing on...
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Double pier for the suspended pool settings - 16mm rebar to strengthen the columns
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:10 am

Columns are boxed
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Ground floor ring beam being framed...in Latin America they call these light shafts 'the Fingers of God'.
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Re: Koh Phangan Coconut Build

Postby kiwimartin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:39 pm

Really cracking on today...I am very impressed...
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Basement apartment with split level floor...
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Swimming pool shaping up.
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