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Re: a very slow start to a very slow build in khon kaen

Postby Mike Judd » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:10 am

You should think about the reason for Thai style foundations / columns/roof all tied together, it maybe because of the risk with Cyclones etc: that do occasionally sweep through Thailand. (I have seen the results of one around Khon Kaen a few years ago) Quite devastating to lots of roofs. They changed the building regulations in Darwin after the Cyclone there in the 60's (No 1 tie roof down)
But that aside, Thai builders are so used to the roof tied to columns and the walls only non loading fill in panels ,what you use is just your choice. I went for the Q-Con blocks which are very quick to lay and come in all thicknesses ,depending on how much you want to spend per block and how much insulation you want.
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Re: a very slow start to a very slow build in khon kaen

Postby geordie » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:32 am

If you are going for two layers of qcon you would be ill advised to pour concrete in the cavity the aac blocks work as good insulation because they have tiny air bubbled in them so give you good insulation so any heat that makes it through the first layer is hopefully redirected towards the roof (convection ) where you should allow it to escape but the other contender is radiated heat which will hit the second wall and should hopefully be stopped totally by the little bubles which is why you pay a premium for this type of block bridging the gap with concrete seems to defeat the object a bit if you want you can check with the manufacturer of your particular AAC block and find out if its density will allow for freestanding walls no colums needed we have been doing it in uk for a number of years now that way but admitedly we do not get a lot of cyclones here

Mike i took a look at that website pretty good :) they look like a concrete version of the ""lost form shuttering"" the others are polystyrene though but have the same plastic configuration to carry the rebar and obviously to keep the polystyrene rigid the polystyrene blocks lock together like a tounge and groove joint and rely on props till you have poured i will try and find the website on it i was hoping to find them over there when i first came on the forum one of the members was going to use them for a music room but i guess he had no success finding them the bonus with the polystyrene was no heat transmission either way
and there are not many animals that will eat it either :mrgreen:
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Re: a very slow start to a very slow build in khon kaen

Postby Mike Judd » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:14 pm

As any building project in Thailand depends on the availability of materials, it's all a matter of what choices you have. But the traditional Thai method of tying the roof down is not something I would ignore, especially if using Colourbond , which makes an excellent light weight roof with the long lengths that can be purchased. The problem with it ,is it's flat surface that when any strong wind blows across it, it sucks the whole roof upwards and off in some cases. So if building with-out all those columns , which can be a bit of an eye sore, and going for the traditional western method of load bearing walls, don't forget to have some way of anchoring the roof .
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Re: a very slow start to a very slow build in khon kaen

Postby geordie » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:13 pm

Now i know we do.nt have cyclone,s but we do have some of the most stringent building regulations available anywhere its a bit like road markings and signage they are usually as a result of could happen ??? Has happened elswhere and similarities are across the board so even though we do not use colums we do use straps to retain the roof :lol:
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Re: a very slow start to a very slow build in khon kaen

Postby erikr69 » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:24 am

Ok told you guys it would be a slow start, especially due to extreme busy times in the office (been on the road all weeks since I returned from Thailand in January).
Only limited work has been done on the plot
We have added some soil to flatten out the plot, have raised the entrance to the plot and made it wider for easy access by car and put a drain pipe underneath for water to pass.
Next week they will first repair the roof on the old house as last weeks heavy rain showed it was leaking on a few spots but this will be done with the cheap iron sheets similar to current.

Current plan is to start foundations columns and roof structure at the end of the rainy season and I will go to Thailand in August to select the buider.

It is moving, just a bit slow :D
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Re: a very slow start to a very slow build in khon kaen

Postby Mike Judd » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:55 pm

I had a look at your site and saw you intend being over in August , as you are in Khon Kaen I wondered which side (North /South /East or West) My build is on the way , 40 min out of the city to Kosumpisi. If you have the time ,have a look at it . The directions and all info are in my post, Slow build etc.etc. The gate is locked but no problem walking down the left side. Some of the specialised contractors were quite good if you are not having a builder do the lot. Like the roof steel/Tiling, windows and ceilings. It might be of help with your build. Mike.
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Re: a very slow start to a very slow build in khon kaen

Postby erikr69 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:13 pm

yes will be there as of end of the next week. Finding the right builder is essential, will not start till I am comfy with the builder. Only hurry I have is the sinking euro and rising prices :)
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