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Pile

Postby singa-traz » Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:43 am

dozer wrote:I've only seen pile drivers used on apartments, condos and the like. What necessitated it's use, what are soil conditions etc? How deep are they driving the piles?


Piles are 20-22 meters long. It depends on the number of floor of your house/building.

Due to road access, they had to be in two parts and then welded (steel base). I have a video of it if you want.

I understand that piles is a requirements for construction in Samutprakarn, due to soil condition, and we are near the sea.

For the soil, there is a large layer of clay.

The last pile droped 5-6 meters, like if you put your finger in the butter.
There was a pocket of water.

I asked, how do you know that the lenght of pile is enought.

For the last 10 feet, they will start counting how many time you hit the pile, and record it. For the last hit, they will check how deep the pile droped, and it must be less than a certain value.

As they know the weight of the steel mass, they can estimate how much weight the pile can support.

Cost of pile depends on the lenght, obviously.
Total cost for us was around 130-150 KTB. I can recheck.

I was told, this method of putting pile is no longer authorised in Bangkok (City), due to the vibration it generates.
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Postby dozer » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:09 am

Ah ha! soil conditions. Now the whole thing makes sense! Also a possible solution for those building in rice paddies.

Would love to see the video, can you try to attach and PM it to me.
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Postby John » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:50 pm

dozer wrote:I've only seen pile drivers used on apartments, condos and the like. What necessitated it's use, what are soil conditions etc? How deep are they driving the piles?



If you drive down Soi 2 Nongprue - the road that runs through to Soi Siam Country Club , you will see a new estate being built on short piles. The corner houses are perched about 5 M above the public road and look quite scary when you drive past.
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Pictures: 2006-03-12

Postby singa-traz » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:15 am

A few pictures of the work in progress (Not neccessary in the right order):

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/zagpower/my_photos
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Postby marklatham » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:34 pm

Nara wrote:What does it cost per pile? I was told it's a good way to go but expensive and for my project overkill.

Piles look good to me,but what does the engineer say?
Do you understand the engineering of house construction?
Because if you don't you are about to be ripped off.
Builders are rogues all over the world,some of us are loveable rougues,though.
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New Pics added

Postby singa-traz » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:31 am

New and older pictures added.
(http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/zagpower/my_photos)

After physically looking at what was labelled the "mini-kitchenet" on the drawing, we really had two options:

1: change it to a mini-bar
2: re-arrange a bit the rooms, to allow for a real-size kitchen.

So we decided on Option 2. Not much changes, remove two walls from the drawing, and that's about it. Easy to do at this stage
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Postby SVielha » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:40 pm

I was counting the rooms and come up to 13 or 14 rooms in this house.

Than I saw, that you have 200 to 250 m2 (why don`t you know, how big your house will be?)

I think the rooms than will be kind of small, if you also think , that you need some space for the stairs and the hall way.

We have 205 m2 without walls on 1 floor (which saves the space for the stairs).

On this space we have 9 rooms (incl. 2 small rooms WC/Laundry).
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Floor Space

Postby singa-traz » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:31 pm

SVielha wrote:I was counting the rooms and come up to 13 or 14 rooms in this house.

Than I saw, that you have 200 to 250 m2 (why don`t you know, how big your house will be?)

I think the rooms than will be kind of small, if you also think , that you need some space for the stairs and the hall way.

We have 205 m2 without walls on 1 floor (which saves the space for the stairs).

On this space we have 9 rooms (incl. 2 small rooms WC/Laundry).


The 200-250 m2, was an estimate at the beginning of the design, so you are right, we did not really know how big the house would be ... at that time (April 2005).

After we selected the contractor, we had some discussion with him and the architect, which was good, to have different opinion/view, and the stair was a bit small, so we had to enlarge it ... at the expense of the kitchenet. On the drawing, it still looked ok, as we planned to move some walls.

Number of room is actually less than 10 on the first floor, as some of the sections you migh see from the picture will not have walls (two sections will make a room).
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Postby SVielha » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:42 pm

How big are the pillars?

16, 18 or 20 cm?

How many pillars are planned?
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Postby singa-traz » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:21 am

SVielha wrote:How big are the pillars?

16, 18 or 20 cm?

How many pillars are planned?


250 mm below the ground, and 200 mm above. (Floor 1 & 2)
In total 19 pillars.

Soil is clay so need long pillars (20-22 m).
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Postby SVielha » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:59 pm

At my house, they made the pillars 200mm and 1.5m in the ground. :)

Maybe 4m aboth ground, because the house has only 1 floor.

How deep do they put the pillars in the ground at your house? 10m?

But on the bottom of the pillars there a concret base of 1m2 and 15cm thick to give the pillar the hold it need and then the soil of the ground is not so important anymore. :P

When my scanner is operational again, I can show you some pics! :D
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Postby singa-traz » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:22 am

SVielha wrote:...

How deep do they put the pillars in the ground at your house? 10m?

But on the bottom of the pillars there a concret base of 1m2 and 15cm thick to give the pillar the hold it need and then the soil of the ground is not so important anymore. :P

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Soil condition is very different here.

The pillars are 20m in the ground.
Soil is soft, and there are sometime pocket of water.

The last pillar drop 4-5 m in one hit !

I think in Samutprakarn, there is some construction regulation that mentioned pillars lenghts.
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Postby SVielha » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:17 pm

Have a look here:

https://fotoalbum.web.de/gast/sascha.vielhauer/Thailandhaus

There you can see pics of my house incl. pillars.
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Postby SVielha » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:15 pm

Did you already start to built your house?

New picsc?
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Pictures

Postby singa-traz » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:42 am

Added a few pictures:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/zagpower/album?.dir=c7f5

The house construction is near the end, another 4-6 weeks, and we should be able to move in.
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