Building my house in Sattahip

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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby geordie » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:34 pm

fredlk wrote: This house was designed for wheelchair access, BUT NOT FOR ME!!! :cry: :D


fred if many more of my bits break i may be the first to test that access

sunpax gave good advice air and gauze and liquid antiseptic dettol or similar rather than cream
or if by a miracle you can get it a powder for fungal infection(daktarin) cream quite often is designed to delay the closing to allow infection out but can have adverse effects as the imune system sees the cream as an infection also try lemon on the leg if the bugs are taking an interest

the tap swap the pipes over so you push for hot the same way on all of them you may forget one day and burn yourself better to have the label wrong set them the way you find natural

keep water off the leg shrink wrap it if need be when you shower
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby fredlk » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:50 pm

geordie wrote:the tap swap the pipes over so you push for hot the same way on all of them

If /when / we need to break off the tiles on the shower wall then the pipes can be swapped, but as is they're all perfectly buried and hidden and the same for every heater and every tap. I might just use a waterproof marker and exchange the C and H. It's not a big deal. This house is becoming normal with its quirks and odds and ends. It's looking more Thai every day. :D
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby Super8man » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:49 am

Your leg sounds very worrying. See if the hospital have any none stick dressing. They have a shiny type plastic which is put over the wound and gauze on the back to soak the gunge up. Not sure if it was the same one but they also helped healing.

I had to use these for about six weeks after I got a bite in Soung Sang although I was back in the UK when I started using them. Thai (Pattiaya) clinic only used gauze which stuck every time. Also advised not to use any antibiotic cream on wound, but used antiseptic irrigation to wash wound. Dressing changed at least twice a day, and left uncovered for about 1 hour. Don't want to worry you but mine took about 12 weeks to get right.

Seem to remember I had 3 lots of antibiotics till infection went. What ever you do DO NOT read side effects leaflet on drugs

"Can cause loss of memory in 1 in 100" does that mean if you already have loss of memory you forget you have loss of memory :lol:

Learn my lesson that time now as soon as I get bite try to use Tea Tree Oil that works very well plus them nasty black sand flies don't like it. I hate them.

Take special care of yourself Best Wishes.
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby fredlk » Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:21 am

Super8man wrote:Your leg sounds very worrying.

Thanks for your concern. I was not overly worried, but it was when I heard the remarks by the nurses and saw the looks on their faces that I knew it was more serious than usual.
Super8man wrote:See if the hospital have any none stick dressing.

I will ask the surgeon specialist I'm seeing this morning after being leeched / having blood taken.
Super8man wrote:Don't want to worry you but mine took about 12 weeks to get right.

Actually it's good to know as mine has only been there 11 days so far.
Super8man wrote:Seem to remember I had 3 lots of antibiotics till infection went. What ever you do DO NOT read side effects leaflet on drugs

I don't read them because I know for a fact that antibiotics always make me feel terrible, lethargic, depressed, unwell.
I'm on my 2nd (plus 3rd). It's Augmentin which is Amoxycillin plus Clavulanate Potassium.

Back to building as this is after all a building story.
Nothing's happening and won't for another 10 days or so. I have no money, Num has no workers, the master-tiler (who I've demanded be the only person from now on to ever touch a tile in this house) is busy elsewhere, there are no lamps for the electrician to fit and test, the guest-bathroom is not ready enough for the plumber to do his bit ....

Off building, but about the house. My handyman and his wife the wannabee housekeeper resigned yesterday morning when I told them I had only morning work for them next week as I'm busy in the afternoons. The rate still being 150 Baht a half-day made them a little unhappy as they'd presumed they were ready for the full contract at 300 Baht per half day. A couple will now be arriving from Phnom Phrai, vetted and recommended by the Thai family. That should be fun, but I think they've in all likelihood removed somebody from slavery in order to come work for me. I've told them to warn these poor people that I'm easy to get on with, but that I hate dirt and I would like them to be able to adopt some new methods of cleaning apart from the usual Thai broom.

Apart from all the above, it is wonderful living here. :D

(Re-reading this I do seem to be raving a little. :lol: )
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby fredlk » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:08 pm

Final medical update on the wound created by Building my house in Sattahip.
I should have started a new topic, but as my leg will stay on and will heal soon, here's today's events.

I spent the whole morning at the hospital, blood tests, surgeon, wound-dressing .... The doctor, the 3rd I've seen said "Your wound looks fine".
I asked him why the nurses all react that way and he said they're just covering their tracks. As for the dressing he said I can do it myself and so from their pharmacy I got a bottle of antiseptic liquid for washing the wound, gauze pads and antiseptic gel. The bill for blood tests, doctors consultation, nursing, wound-dressing, all the stuff from the pharmacy was 1,060 Baht and that is at the 50% higher price charged to foreigners. One third of the price in Bangkok at the BNH and at least 10 times cheaper than what it would be in Holland. In spite of botched tiling and faulty manufacture at the VRH-factory, I love this country more every day. :D

Then I went to a pharmacy. Hardly anyone in Sattahip speaks English, but at the pharmacy this very old man, retired Navy personnel, did and he asked me to come behind the counter and look for the stuff I needed as he didn't have his glasses with him. I finally found the jumbo-sized waterproof plasters and the cotton swabs and he found the price of 75 Baht a bit high and so he gave me a 5 Baht discount. Come anywhere near the counter in a European shop and the police arrive and handcuff you.
Did I say I love this country? :lol:

Anyway, all's well that ends well and next I might actually continue with the building story, Building my house in Sattahip.
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby Ians » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:42 pm

Good to hear that all seems fine with the leg, it is worth remembering that healing comes from the inside (hence the question - are you diabetic), all the 'magic" creams, antiseptics etc they love to plaster on doesn't cure / heal anything. Keep the wound clean, salty water is as good as it gets - some fresh air and sunshine - lightly bandaged and rest. The medico's can, if you're lucky cure it in 3 weeks, good old fashion home care will probably cure it in 2 weeks.
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby fredlk » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:16 pm

Ians wrote: - some fresh air and sunshine -

Sunshine? :roll: :lol: It's been raining, cloudy and raining again for days now. Thankfully I'm on a hill as a lot of other places seem to be flooded.
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby Sunpax » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:25 pm

Glad to know Fred...that it will be alright !

Must not forger that behind every house is a man ! or a woman ;) and that we are probably the most important pilar of hour house adventure... loll
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby Ians » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:09 pm

fredlk wrote:
Ians wrote: - some fresh air and sunshine -

Sunshine? :roll: :lol: It's been raining, cloudy and raining again for days now. Thankfully I'm on a hill as a lot of other places seem to be flooded.
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Well at least fresh air :D
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby MGV12 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:32 pm

fredlk wrote:Sunshine? :roll: :lol: It's been raining, cloudy and raining again for days now. Thankfully I'm on a hill as a lot of other places seem to be flooded.
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Keep it down there ... I don't want any more :cry: :roll:

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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby fredlk » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:30 pm

The sun came out about an hour ago.
The painters arrived for the first of 3 days and are sanding and filling the skirting boards and door surrounds and sanding and preparing the doors.
The yellow front doors are now primed in a battleship grey. We think that we might not be able to fit the small vertical window in the 50 centimetre door.
The door has a lock in it, then a large vertical handle and if we then cut a hole for a 20 centimetre wide pane of glass, the door might lose it's strength.
It was not for light as the entrance corridor is all glass anyway, but we'll see how it looks without the glass.
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby fredlk » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:06 am

Update:
After the painters had left on Saturday evening I discovered that everything, EVERYTHING, was covered in a layer of paint-dust from the sanding. Furious is not a word I would use for myself at that moment. Phone calls were made and next morning the painters arrived with 1 (ONE / NEUNG / UNO) roll of plastic and covered a couple of things. I got pretty mad. More phone calls and then the big boss arrived carrying more rolls. They covered some more and I got involved because it was something they'd obviously never done and they thought lightly draped plastic over vases and sculptures would suffice. I exploded in a fit of rage - I blame the antibiotics - and when Fluke arrived I was murderous. If it had been the carpenter boss I would have punched him. I'm not usually the violent type.

Tears were dried - theirs not mine - and everyone avoided me and continued working. I apologised to everyone and blamed my pills. The next day they removed some doors to do them in a drier environment they said and they haven't been back yet. I'm told they'll be back this afternoon. I have given everyone until Thursday evening to do what needs doing inside and if it's not complete then the carpenter will not get any of the 20,000 Baht he is still owed for the doors. I'm living under and in plastic and it's okay till Thursday. After that, apart from the bathrooms, they can come back to continue in about 2014. I mean it.

Yesterday we went to organise the rubbish collection for 200 Baht per year. In Amsterdam it's about 2,000 Baht per month and if it's not out on time or before time, fines are issued. This morning the waste department came with the septic-tank cleaning truck and we told them we didn't think they need return before at least 2015.
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby Max&Bee-in-CM » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:47 pm

fredlk wrote: I got pretty mad. I would have punched him. I'm not usually the violent type.


I recommend the aluminium baseball bat - much higher angular velocity than a piece of wood. But on serious note, I feel for you. Been there many many times. Take a deep breath and relax, go for a walk to cool off or do something else for half a day when the pressures and in-competencies from the locals build up. You have 5 more years of building, so need to pace yourself.
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby fredlk » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:14 pm

Max&Bee-in-CM wrote:I recommend the aluminium baseball bat - much higher angular velocity than a piece of wood. But on serious note, I feel for you. Been there many many times.

Funny that, I had visions of myself as you wielding a crowbar .... and then I snapped out of it. :lol:
I've been out the last couple of days, easier on the painters and easier on me. I want nothing to do with it all.
I have of course found other major irritations but I've decided to let that pass, sort of, for now. I just want a place to live and live comfortably.
The painters are doing a good job, but I've been told that the walls still need their final coat. Forget it. 2014 or thereabouts or when I'm away for many weeks.
After tomorrow evening nobody is coming into any of the rooms and only the bathrooms are places where work is allowed. Next month I want them building walls.
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Re: Building my house in Sattahip

Postby geordie » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:37 pm

Zero tolerance fredic :?: Bangkok with all that black dust daily must look atractive now
I am thinking a nice cheap 2.5 mtr wall between phase 1 and phase 2 might see phase 2 become a reality
I blame lack of education / training tell them to seal the rooms they are working in with plastic sheets and if posible clear the room then when they have finished to your sarisfaction
then only then can they start another room but they clean daily before they go home OR the big stick comes out you will employ a cleaner to follow them around and they can pay
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