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Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby Poi Fai Malaiporn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:01 am

Hello all ;)

After many years of dreaming about building here..we finally gonna make it !!
Last year we purchased a small land of 15m*16m closed by noi's parents house near San Khampeng, and even more close to "Alpine Resort" , Chiang Mai golf, we met the architect once and one week after he came back with a drawing and 3D house project, that was not at all what we did talk about before :(
So after talking long time.. I asked him to take his pen and draw what I thought was good for us... we finally make something that seems to suits our needs much more than the first project, I'll got the drawing plan the 10th of october 2009 and the final material listing and detailled stuff on the 17th october... but the man who is in charger of the building process was here too and Today, the 6th october They came with materials.. and start drawing lines, they will start to dig tomorrow i think... but of course We still don't have the final Drawings... SO STRANGE for me.. but what to do..!?
The house should look like Lanna Style outside and inside modern with concrete and wood on the floor .. and wood furnitures as much as possible... with a lot of Big windows and glass walls.

the Architect cost us 100 baths per Square meter so for 160m2.. it should be 16.000 baths to give to him when everything will be on paper clearly.

The builder ask us 8.500 Baths per square meter and less for terrace or simple space around... but I think I will pay the work only and take care myself of buiying materials so I can choose good and decide myself of which quality I'm gonna use, We agree for a 2.200 baths/ square meter for Work / labour , that not include materials, is that correct prices ?

The first thing We have to look for is the termite/insects protection system, because of course they wanted to use the chemical one here.. same same i've seen on others posts here.. but after looking on magazines and search info for.. I've found a society in chiang mai near hang dong it is called "green nano technologie", has i understand it has nothing to do with nano technologies.. but it is Natural blend of herbs and cactus that should works great against insect and not spoil the land, fruits, plants and water around... I hope ^ the cost is 10.000 for doing that but it has to be done each 4 mounth or less with a very ower cost after that.. we have to discuss more with that compagnie.. If somebody has other ideas please tell me !

Thank you for your comments in advance

Peace and Love 4 all :D
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby Poi Fai Malaiporn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:35 am

Here are some pictures ... ^^ 8)

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Enjoy and peace 4 all :)
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby thaifly » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:49 pm

its a gidday to foi..its the thai fly frommae rim..firstly and..most importantly good luck with your build..the fee that you paid to your architect seems very reasonble..as for your builders price ..well..?????...without seeing the plans..and what contract that you have in place..it would not be fair to comment....as for the termite side.matey bite the bullett...everyday is not a green day.....and put in the normal system that u have seen on c.t.h. approx 15000 baht will cover you there..and a refill is needed every couple years..at a a very low cost. and that side is over red rover....keep the pics coming...its great chelsea f.c GIDDAY TO ALL...its the thaifly from mae rim
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby Poi Fai Malaiporn » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:41 pm

Thank you thaifly for ur answer, unfortunatly I didn't understand it all.. sorry for that.. my English seems to have some gasps ^^ oups :cry:

do you mean that I should go for the normal insect mites killer instead of the new greennano stuff ? greennano do sell it as a contract for one year 10.000 baths and garanty no insects or they have to refound you... refound the 10.000baths not the price of your house of course.. I hope I make it clear.

without seeing the plans..and what contract that you have in place..it would not be fair to comment


Yes i didn't see the plans yet.. but he draught the house in front of us with roof and everything ... the first plan was very pro, this architect is actually working as a teacher at Chiang Mai unversity and built already many houses for Farangh.. but his english is really poor.. alone there is no way to talk with him :( and he's working regulary for the Builder guy who is a connection of my wife's father (who is working as mayor of this little town and highly respected by everyone, except the jalous ones), so I have a kind of a garantee that this builder will do the job right because he's afraid of loosing is face in front of my father in law... also he build many houses for faranghs too, working in mooban often, has 4 places to work at that time.
For the contract, we didn't sign it yet.. but as I understood.. he will garantee the house for a year without a scratch.. and if something is not going as the plan .. he will destroy and do again until it is correct. But I know that means Nothing... I just can Pray for now..and touch wood for good luck..not ConWood of course.. lol

I still not sure what to do for the materials... buying everything myself and pay 2200 baths per m2 for job.. or 8500baths per m2 all included as he propose us on the first offer... with that we don't have to do anything just watch and see ^^ and having luck.. he says he needs 4 months to do it all. the house will be around 160 m2 with 2 storey.. 3 bedrooms 2 bathrooms, living, dining and kitchen.


I already payed my first bill today of 9730 baths for :
10 packs of ciment of 50kg 140baths each.
metal bars of different diameters, send, small rocks.. just the begining stuff to build the first 2 pillars, more deep that the standart for moobans, as he said.

I, with crossed finguers, wish you all the best and peace 4 all :)
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby thaifly » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:35 pm

its a gidday to poi foi...its the thai fly from mae rim..you.. are doing fine with your english...now matey look up the very delingent C.N.X BUILD...story there are pics of the termite system that was installed there... the builder seems to come from good stock..the 1 year guarantee has the thai fly on alert..is it in the contract???...his quotes of 2200 baht a sq metre..for what u are describing...is a great price..with the provision that he carrys out everthing ...that he promises to you...and a good acceptable quality of work to go with it.. 6300 baht a s q metre materials price he has quoted... has got the thai fly on edge.. you are saying timber floors big windows lanna style etc etc. huge question mark on that one..all in all..it seems to cheap for me.. both labour and materials. i would be weighing in a 20 per cent buffer on the above price..but...maybe another member can throw in their thoughts to help you...its a conwood of a gidday to all its the thaifly from mae rim
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby thaifly » Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:38 pm

its a gidday to poi fai..its the thai fly from mae rim...no response from members..so cobber.... u .... are on your way .... site staked out......u ... have paid for materials... to start.... so may the good lord be with you....on your build.... .ITS PEACE AND LOVE FOR ALL.. and its a ... GREAT... john lennon ..... GIDDAY. TO ALL. :D :D :D :D ....... its the thai fly from mae rim
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby geordie » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:26 am

Poi Fai Malaiporn wrote: this architect is actually working as a teacher at Chiang Mai unversity and built already many houses for Farangh.. but his english is really poor.. alone there is no way to talk with him :( and he's working regulary for the Builder guy who is a connection of my wife's father (who is working as mayor of this little town and highly respected by everyone, except the jalous ones), so I have a kind of a garantee that this builder will do the job right because he's afraid of loosing is face in front of my father in law... also he build many houses for faranghs too,
first 2 pillars, more deep that the standart for moobans, as he said.

I, with crossed finguers, wish you all the best and peace 4 all :)


Should not be dificult to check his workmanship with a vast experience of building for fallang or check his prices??

THE MAYORAL connection is a worry as that can bite you in the arse the father in law will not want it known that his son in law is stingy so you may end up getting railroaded with extras that you saw as part of the build he will be on the side of the builder
all thai builders will when working labour only put things right you are paying twice so it is not a problem hope the materials wasted were not expensive
I hate to say this but i have alarm bells ringing like why only two pillars/why extra deep does he normally skimp on the others??
my comments may be wrong but never deliberately
If it aint broke, dont fix it
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby Poi Fai Malaiporn » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:14 am

thanks you for ur answers, later on i'll post new pics, but I had internet problems here, now it seems to be fixed !

geordie, you really almost scared me.. lol.. we'll see what it lead us too... also I have to trust everybody or I'll never get anything build here, because I am living in a mounth and 10 days.. going back to work in France.. so they'll have to finish all by themselves.

THE MAYORAL connection is a worry as that can bite you in the arse the father in law will not want it known that his son in law is stingy so you may end up getting railroaded with extras that you saw as part of the build he will be on the side of the builder
all thai builders will when working labour only put things right you are paying twice so it is not a problem hope the materials wasted were not expensive
I hate to say this but i have alarm bells ringing like why only two pillars/why extra deep does he normally skimp on the others??


does "stingy " means "not generous" .. always counting money... bath per bath..??? if it is that.. my reputation is already done here since 9 years coming.. They know I won't pay more than the price my father in law say it is ok ^^ but of course.. quality means expensive !
I know also that I am paying the builder for everything concerning the house.. not the furnitures.. the curtains.. and other stuff.. like fridge and air con..tv.. that was the deal in the first place.. and also not for the garden .
"the materials wasted were not expensive" => seems that you don't beleive they will build that house... I hope YES !!
only two pillars because they are the MAIN ONES.. ther others.. 13 left to dig... will be less deep and more easy to do. Also they wanted to start today to put the ciment et build theses pillars because father in law said the 8th october is the date the monk said it's ok to start the BUILD, so they hurry to be ready on that day .. for GOOD Fortune... well that's beyond me.. today the Chaman came for Puja and giving offers to the spirits, they did supersitious stuff that is Very Important for them.... I don't give a s**t for that.. but that's why they start theses 2 pillars so fast.

for the deep... they said they never did so deep before.. the main pillar has a hole of 1.60m deep, the architect ask to do that way because i wanted STRONG house.. lol... usually for houses even 2 storey they don't dig so much, 1.20 is enough as they usualy don't dig more.. i don't know myself what is correct and what is not, maybe somebody can point it out ^^ the architecht explain me that the houses build in the villages/ lotissements/ are really s**t stuff.. and not build to last long.. that's why it is so cheap...

Peace and love 4 all :).. and may the good spirits be with you ^^
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby Poi Fai Malaiporn » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:48 pm

here are some more pics from today... the D day.. with blessed project..lol :evil:

this main hole is 160cm*160cm, today they poured 5.5 sacs of 50kg each on this one.. so 275kg of ciment plus the mixed : sand, water and stones !

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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby thaifly » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:30 pm

its a gidday to foi moi .....its the thai fly from mae rim ....pics are coming up very nicely...wow your build will be earthquake proof..from the pics ..now settle down 8) and we will get u through this build with c.t.h support :D :D :D ...its make love not war :) :) GIDDAY TO ALL..its the thai fly from mae rim
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby Poi Fai Malaiporn » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:14 pm

its a gidday to foi moi .....its the thai fly from mae rim ....pics are coming up very nicely...wow your build will be earthquake proof..from the pics ..now settle down 8) and we will get u through this build with c.t.h support :D :D :D ...its make love not war :) :) GIDDAY TO ALL..its the thai fly from mae rim


thank you Thaifly...

and LOL.. earthquake proof.. exactly what we asked.... Strong ROCK Solid house.. lol ^^ but in fact earthquake proof should be paper wall.. next house maybe :P

I am now shilling out, waiting for the plan from the architect in 2 days... thanks for CTH support :d

Make love not war => OF course.. I am out of bullet anyway.. and love doesn't cost a penny ^^

See U all.. PEACE and have FUN :)
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby Poi Fai Malaiporn » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:17 pm

Hello again to all of CTH members !

Here comes some updates after few days without pictures... I had to go to krung thep for a while.. now I'm back on track !! here it is ==>

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My father in law went to the department office for submitting the plans.. it cost 150 baths for the paper work..that's nice price !! there is 24 pages for all the files + other stuff.. i didn't have to take care of..

Enjoy and Fun for All :)
Peace from Poi Fai
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby Poi Fai Malaiporn » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:53 pm

Some updates of the building in pics , here it is =>
(PS : I can't use the photo gallery of the CTH forum because of my gprs connection is so slow.. only imageShack does it.. with much effort but works.. Dozer if you can put my pics on my photo album gallery that could be good, otherwise I 'll still post my pics like that, thanks)

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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby dozer » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:33 pm

If you have bandwidth limitations just continue posting them in-line then, as both formats work OK.
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Re: Building in Chiang Mai, Lanna Style

Postby Poi Fai Malaiporn » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:33 am

thank you Dozer, so here come more pics, I know it is not very exciting.. but the house is in progress, i am happy with that everything is going smoothly for now !... :roll:
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