EVERYTHING you NEED to know for your first SWIMMING POOL

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Postby jazzman » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:46 pm

grant wrote:
Nawty wrote:Is this for a salt water chlorinator ?

Some guys on here have good prices for various brands of pool equipment, sure they will kick in with a recommendation or 3.

Also the pool guy in hua hin is the agent for Poolrite and he sent me a price for a chlorinator which was about 1/3rd of your price and they can ship it to you in Phuket.


It's an AutoChlor AC50 saltwater chlorinator. Price depends on the pool size of course and this is for an 18 x 4 x 1.4 m pool.



Hi Guys

The people in Hua Hin are a first class professional pool company with a large modern office block, warehouse and workshops. They deal exclusively with PoolRite pumps, filters, sskimmers, maindrains and chlorinators. They are the exclusive importer for Thailand for PoolRite which is an Oz company. Their over-the-counter prices in HuaHin are very reasonable, but some of the smaller accessories (lights, nozzles, vacuum hoses, telescopic poples and various cleaning heads are available significantly cheaper from other brands.

For a pool your size (approx 100 cubic metres)
, you will get the entire set of technical equipment - chlorinator, filter and pump - from them at much less than the 98k you have been quoted! They have a sub-agent in Phuket and if he has been quoting outrageous prices, do get on to PoolRite Head Office and speak to young Chris, the CEO.

If you want the best prices
, you'd have to go to Hua Hin and fetch the stuff yourself.

These people
may be able to give you some more advice, particularly on PoolRite stuff: <edit Dozer 7/30/09> but Phuket is probably off their patch.

A PoolRite top of the range saltwater chlorinator, fully automatic, for a 100 m3 pool will cost around 37,000 baht.

Hope this helps - do read the lead article on this thread for more info and links.
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Postby grant » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:05 pm

jazzman wrote:
grant wrote:
Nawty wrote:Is this for a salt water chlorinator ?

Some guys on here have good prices for various brands of pool equipment, sure they will kick in with a recommendation or 3.

Also the pool guy in hua hin is the agent for Poolrite and he sent me a price for a chlorinator which was about 1/3rd of your price and they can ship it to you in Phuket.


It's an AutoChlor AC50 saltwater chlorinator. Price depends on the pool size of course and this is for an 18 x 4 x 1.4 m pool.



Hi Guys

The people in Hua Hin are a first class professional pool company with a large modern office block, warehouse and workshops. They deal exclusively with PoolRite pumps, filters, sskimmers, maindrains and chlorinators. They are the exclusive importer for Thailand for PoolRite which is an Oz company. Their over-the-counter prices in HuaHin are very reasonable, but some of the smaller accessories (lights, nozzles, vacuum hoses, telescopic poples and various cleaning heads are available significantly cheaper from other brands.

For a pool your size (approx 100 cubic metres)
, you will get the entire set of technical equipment - chlorinator, filter and pump - from them at much less than the 98k you have been quoted! They have a sub-agent in Phuket and if he has been quoting outrageous prices, do get on to PoolRite Head Office and speak to young Chris, the CEO.

If you want the best prices
, you'd have to go to Hua Hin and fetch the stuff yourself.

These people
may be able to give you some more advice, particularly on PoolRite stuff: <edit Dozer 7/30/09> but Phuket is probably off their patch.

A PoolRite top of the range saltwater chlorinator, fully automatic, for a 100 m3 pool will cost around 37,000 baht.

Hope this helps - do read the lead article on this thread for more info and links.


Thanks Jazzman. I have gone through many of the links posted which are very helpful and that's how I found the online site in Aus. I will certainly contact the company in Hua Hin.
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Postby jazzman » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:26 pm

There are several firms in Hua Hin, here is a link to the chlorinator page of the firm I mentioned:
http://www.poolshopthailand.com/chlorinators-surechlor.htm

The model recommeded for your pool size is the
1877 AK 35 - Surechlor 4000 Baht 36,750

unless you are building a balance tank system which could add another 10,000 litres or more, then you should go for the next model up. Still a lot cheaper than what you were quoted :!:

Maybe we should start a black-list (not for publication of course) of these people who overquote. Feel free to PM me, I'll make a note of them :twisted:
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Postby grant » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:32 pm

jazzman wrote:There are several firms in Hua Hin, here is a link to the chlorinator page of the firm I mentioned:
http://www.poolshopthailand.com/chlorinators-surechlor.htm

The model recommeded for your pool size is the
1877 AK 35 - Surechlor 4000 Baht 36,750

unless you are building a balance tank system which could add another 10,000 litres or more, then you should go for the next model up. Still a lot cheaper than what you were quoted :!:

Maybe we should start a black-list (not for publication of course) of these people who overquote. Feel free to PM me, I'll make a note of them :twisted:


I'll be meeting with them soon to go over all of the specifics and they will then provide a quote. The price I indicated was the price labeled on the unit in their showroom. They will of course provide a discount if I buy everything from them but I suspect the mark-up will still be very high. This is Phuket after all where there are far too many people with too much money to spend. I'll keep you posted.
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Postby jazzman » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:56 pm

As you will have seen from previous posts on this topic, it is quite easy to calculate a realistic price fo a pool. You now know the real prices for the equipment, the rest is for CPAC (about 30,000), rebar (about 13,500), tile adhesive and tiles (finishes range from 180 baht per m2 to over 2,000 baht per m2). The actual plumbing requisites are cheap too, not much more than 2,000 for the piping, about 3,600 for ball cocks and check valves, and 380 baht for a tin of glue (the paste, not the thin watery stuff). Main drains and skimmers are abot 3,000 baht each.
If you are using formwork, do check on the price from several sources.
Labour, even down there should not be more than about 54,000 baht.

It's quite usual for pool firms to apply up to 400% profit
margin which is of course far, far too much. There are firms in other parts of Thailand which will come down to Phuket and do it a lot cheaper, and provide quality too :!:
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Postby Nawty » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:38 pm

My pool starts on sunday, I shall document it here bit by bit, cost and all.
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Postby somporn » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:25 am

Hello,

I am going to build a swimming pool in me and my girlfriends house in Nong Bua Dang. It is close to Chaiyaphum.

I didnt know there is so much to know, and so many things to be aware of with a project like this.

Can anyone refer me to a consultant in my area. The plan is to build an inground concrete swimmingpool apr. 6x4x1.5

Jack




jazzman wrote:Yes Dozer, that is unfortunately the effect of having so many 'rich' farangs concentrated in one area - it puts the prices up for every one. This does not happen in Isaan.

I have such a big pool in France that I was a part-time rep for a pools chemical supplier (it started because I was buying chemicals and cleaning equipment in such big quantities for my own use). Until I discovered the cost of buying the same generic chemicals in bulk direct from local chemical factories (about 1/4 of the price of the brand names in fancy packaging in the DIY stores, supermarkets and pool shops). The obvious happened, I dropped the franchise, bought hundreds of 5 gallon (25l) plastic containers and packaged the stuff myself and sold it at a fraction of the price to my existing circle of clients and even made more profit than on the original franchise deal!

The arguments of the importers here for their wildly inflated prices for materials and equipment just do not gel. (I heard one say once, that there is a high import duty on the chlorine. Importing chlorine???? BTW, he has an Irish accent and lives in Jomtien ...)

A pool should cost nothing more than the calculable Thai labour costs, and the prices of the same materials when NOT purchased from a pool specialist. The real prices of the technical equipment can easily be obtained from the manufacturers' websites. Or I have them here to save you the trouble.

The pool I 'm building here is just a family size standard 4 x 12 rectangle, but I've gone for flush-with-deck water level and the expensive balance tank system which it incurs. Saltwater chlorination? I wouldn't be without it. In Pattaya you've saved your 1,000 baht per month (+ chemicals) maintainance cost in the first year, and you've got one less bunch of people coming on your land every week and telling evrybody in town what you've got that's worth nicking.

Dozer, you built your own (very nice) house - you would laugh at the ease of building your own pool.

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Postby jazzman » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:48 pm

This a very small pool, more the size of a spa. It may well be just what you want, but it's worth considering that because of the work and plumbing involved for a pool of any size, to add a couple of metres to the length of your pool would cost very little more. Of course it depends on your limitations of space, but it's nice to know.

If you ever go to Khon Kaen, get a quotation from Interwater Ltd for building it, then speak to your consultant. You'll be amazed how much you can save.
Their new place is about 4 km out of town on the right in the direction of Udon. large modern building, big showroom.
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Postby Nawty » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:39 pm

How time fly's when your having fun.
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Postby conrad » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:22 am

I am about to build a pool ap. 4x6 m and have read all I can find about swimmingpools on this site and I have certainly learnt a lot, but I cannot find mentioned where the best place for the pool is regarding sunshine.

Is it best with as much sunshine as possibly or as little? I live in Phuket.

I can place the pool so it get shade after 1 pm or so it get sun almost all day and third so one end is in the sun and the other in shade from 1 pm.
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Postby jazzman » Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:04 pm

In the tropics, it is probably advisable to keep the water as cool as possible. It will never bee as cold as a pool in a Western country. Keeping the heat down reduces the spawning of bacteria and algae, thus reducing chlorination and other maintenance costs.
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Postby Nawty » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:17 pm

Well. the idea of a pool is a refreshing cool dip on a hot day. So my choice is in a spot where it is shaded, ideally as you mentioned in the afternoons.

I have swum in pools in full sun, as we all have and one particular pool comes to mind and it was very uncomforatble as was warm all day and evening.

On the minus side, I have also swum in pools here that are in full shade all the time and they were bloody cold, cold enough, even here, to be uncomfortable also.

So an ideal mix is....err ideal.
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On the subject of shade?

Postby rubik101 » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:59 pm

Not strictly on thread, but does anyone know which trees give good shade and don't shed too much debris into the pool. I am about to build in Bangsean, 8x6x1.5.
I am happy to pay for a fairly mature tree or trees to be installed south of the pool.
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Re: On the subject of shade?

Postby thaifly » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:08 pm

rubik101 wrote:Not strictly on thread, but does anyone know which trees give good shade and don't shed too much debris into the pool. I am about to build in Bangsean, 8x6x1.5.
I am happy to pay for a fairly mature tree or trees to be installed south of the pool.
gidday rubik ...its the thai fly from mae .....my advice to you is seek a estabalish nursery...where they should be able to advise you on what variety of tree will suit your needs ....re the swimming pool... as u probably noticed i have recently purchased a heap of trees.and the nursey we used had a wealth of info that they passedon to us on selection......small tip buy first thing in the morning u will get a better deal as they will think its going to be there lucky day ...ITS MATURE TREE OF A GIDDAY TO ALL ...ITS THE THAIFLY FROM MAE RIM
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Postby thaifly » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:20 pm

Nawty wrote:My pool starts on sunday, I shall document it here bit by bit, cost and all.
GIDDA NAWTY ITS THE THAIFLY FROM MAE RIM..whilst making a reply post to rubik ...i noticed the above post.... i would say that the pool would be now finished??? if so ... cost and details...would be greatly appreciated.as i can throw them into the mix as i am preparing to build one in the near future many thanks ....its acool swim of a gidday to all its the thaifly from mae rim
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