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Short Chanote – the reason behind it and more

I had previously written about land that wasn’t the same size as stated in the chanote previous short chanote writeup. A couple of things have happened since then. One is that I definitively accept the explanation of my lawyer friend as to why it is this way. Working example: You buy a chanote which states there is 6 rai of land for 1 million per rai, 2500 per tarang wah, total price is 6m baht. The sales agreement states you are buying that plot of land for 6m baht. Later you find out there is really only 5 rai of land there. Why is it you aren’t entitled to a refund? Because just as likely there may have been 7 rai of land there, in which case you’re not obligated to pay more either.

The other thing is that I now understand the source of these chanotes with not accurately stated land areas. I’ve heard this from a neighbor who has a plot next to the subject land and also the lawyer friend. When the land in question was upgrade from Nor Sor 3 title (a type of title) to Chanote title, the survey was done by satellite photography and/or helicopter flyovers. Ergo. everyone agrees that the chanotes that were done this way aren’t very accurate, as far as the amount of land they have.

Also received a wonderful document from Robin T on how to survey a smaller plot yourself. Basically it is a formula you can use if you are measuring any 4 sided plot to computer the area. The document is a MS word document which you can find here Robin T’s document on computing the area of a 4 sided shape.

Then I also received this feedback from coolthaihouse reader ‘whosit’

My local land office has a document that goes with each chanote that tells the survey coordinates for the corners of the land on the chanote. If you can get a copy of this you can enter these coordinates into AutoCad (or equivalent) as points, connect the points as lines, and then run an inquiry to find out the area within the lines….more accurate than is needed. This will not guarantee that the actual corner posts will agree with the data or that the size of the land will be the same as on the chanote but it can reveal one source of error in determine the size of the parcel. If anyone wants more information on this document or help in inputing the data let me know and I’ll help….but if you email me post a message here to let me now you are sending it since I don’t check this email very often.

Let me know if anyone needs help with whosit’s method, I’ll forward his email.

summary

For me what it comes down to is just putting a condition in the sales agreement that the sales price is dependent on an official land survey. I would bet that there will be few sellers that will complain, after all you’ll be the one paying for it (land office fee is minimal).

If someone wanted to play every angle, they could first have a private survey done before agreeing to buy the land. That way if the land stated on the chanote was actually understated, they could just keep their trap zipped. But I still think this is the exception, most chanotes seem to be understated, or is it just that those are the ones you hear about?

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